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I was thinking about adding food competitions but they don't help you in the game the same way that rewards do in Survivor. Whether or not Drew or Maggie or whomever else lost a few pounds due to PB&J/slop doesn't really noticeably affect the numbers.

That S8 of all seasons had the strongest F3 shows just how invalid this list is. :P

Not really. America voted Kaysar back into the house, and later, James. So there's been interference in three of these seasons. That's not counting competitions that were dependent on internet poll results.

I absolutely loathe Dick, but I still think he was much more deserving of the win than Dani. Had America not been given the ability to have Eric's jury vote, I still think she loses to him.

Before Eric came out campaigning for Dick's defense, it really looked like Dustin, Amber, Jameka, Jen and Zach would provide the ammunition Daniele needed. Who knows if he would've even voted for him or if Jessica would have?

Maggie's >>>>>> Ivette. That she beat her in the jury vote is proof enough of that. Maggie didn't try to make any friends? She had half the house doing her bidding, and at times even more than that (Howie). I'm no fan of the Maggot, but she certainly was a better player than Ivette. You don't see Ivette saying the stuff to Rachel that Ivette did that may have cost her the game :P

Hmm. Now that I think about it, Ivette's big blunder was voting out April at F4. She might've pulled a win out that way, especially if she treated Maggie as "a great competitor that I had to remove in order to have a chance of winning"....Beau/James/Janelle gives her three of the votes and I'm inclined to think Howie would've been a fourth, and Maggie a fifth if she's voting objectively. Leaning back towards your position.

Ah, no wonder. It's that moronic "longest lasting couple" bonus that's giving Ivette the boost over Maggie. That's a pointless statistic because someone was inevitably going to end up with such a distinguishable trait. I'll cut the bonus down to one point since it deserves some acknowledgment but hardly affected the outcome of the game. Although it did lead to goonish Howie going after Beau of all people rather than the Friendship's better players, Maggie/Ivette.

Shouldn't Jen get a bonus point since Jameka used the veto on her?

Shouldn't you shut the hell up and quit correcting my oversights. ;) Thanks.

K. Fixed that. Also narrowed the Beau/Ivette bonus by two points, same for the Adria/Natalie (who in their right mind would have suspected that?). Boosted Will's bonus by two points because it reflects his entire game, was completely original, and he needs it.

I think the Final Two bonus is far too high. I originally instituted it to help out Danielle but I later gave her a bonus three points when I came up with the "not votes against in regular game" category. Players that finish first/second already earn 3 (or 3.5 in the case of Will/Nicole) over the 3rd placers which can cover up most of the "jury votes against" deductions for players that fare poorly against the jury. Also, it boosts the winners over third placers not just 8 points (bonus + rank) but they can also earn up to five points for positive jury votes (or like a million if your name is Lisa)...thinking we can lower it to either three or four. This would demote Will to 21st, however.

I just remembered a category from the Survivor ranking that I meant to add a few months back. Deductions for coming within one vote of elimination. This would place greater emphasis on the late-in-the-game contests (F4 HOH, F4 Veto, and F3 HOH) and would also lead to a nomination-esque sort of penalty for those that failed to win these awards but it'd be one point instead of two as it's not a formal nomination if you don't win the last HOH, blah blah blah.

K. Here's those that have just lost some points for coming within one vote of elimination:

Will (x2) - vs. Monica at F3 and Bunky at F5
Nicole (x1) - vs. Hardy at F4
Amy (x2) - vs. Tonya at beginning, vs. Marcellas at F5
Lisa (x1) - vs. Amy
Danielle (x1) - vs. Jason at F3
Erika (x1) - vs. Jack at F6
Jun (x2) - vs. Erika at F4, vs. Robert at F3
Marvin (x2) - vs. Scott and vs. Will
Diane (x1) - vs. Nakomis at F4
Cowboy (x1) - vs. Diane at F3
Maggie (x3) - vs. Eric, vs. April at F4, vs. Janelle at F3
April (x1) - vs. Howie
Erika (x3) - vs. Howie at F8, vs. Will at F4, vs. Janelle at F3
Eric (x1) - vs. Kail
Jameka (x1) - vs. Jessica at F6
Daniele (x2) - vs. Jameka at F4, vs. Zach at F3
Ryan (x1) - vs. Matt at F9
Sharon (x1) - vs. Natalie at F5
Sheila (x1) - vs. Sharon at F4
Adam (x1) - vs. Sheila at F3

There's also now a two point bonus for never coming within one vote of elimination. It goes to Alison, Drew, Ivette, Boogie and Dick (!).

I will be adding in food competitions at a later point. Team ones only, +.5 for each victory. Should take a while to compile but I'm pretty sure the CBS episode recaps for each season list the results/teams.

Those two were looking for ANY reason NOT to give Ivette the money at that point...no matter how much they all hated Janelle. Those bitches probably would have accused Ivette of throwing the HOH.

Let's not forget that they knew America loved Janelle and would probably try to save face and come out as "heroes" by giving her $500 K. And yes, Ivette's decision to vote out April was the game killer.

It still kind of irks me Boogie sits at the top of this list. He played a solid game during BBAS but the doucebag would have been LOST without Will.

Nobody plays this game alone. Let's not forget that he won plenty of challenges, managed to only face the vote on one occasion, won by a 6-1 margin, never earned a vote against him in the game, etc. Will was right in saying he played a perfect game. Granted, his biggest "lucky break" was Janelle voting out Will instead of Erika which is like trying to not look like an idiot after you've shat all over yourself by vomiting as well. Will was no challenge threat so Janelle would be one picking of a booger away from $500 K rather than having to step over a dead tranny also.

James was still friends with Janelle/Howie near the end of that season...and he clearly saw Janelle as the better player, listing her as one of three best along with Will and Danielle before BB:AS began.