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The problem with vegheads is they aren't very smart. If it is a question of ethics they should start by picking a battle that we could all support. A billion dollars worth of beef is wasted each year (loosely calculated to 800k cows). That is enough beef to feed over 10 percent of the entire population of the country for a year. A good deal of this happens because of supermarket displays. A measure to cut down on the waste benefits everyone. Theoretically less demand would equal better conditions for the cow and less hormones in the end product.

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Insecure meateaters always like to tell about how sickly vegetarians are. It isn't true, of course. The list of famous and good looking veggie celebrities is long. Brad Pitt and Pamela Anderson don't look sickly to me.

I think the lack of protein has screwed up your vision. Wouldn't this be working better for you if you were actually finding an exception to the rule? Here's how it works... you find one that looks good, that has been strict for at least 1 year, and that does not also eat fish and and then if I am not bored with this we can have a discussion. Vegheads that eat fish do not get as sickly as the others.