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chaperone		#5161	[-]
Posts: 2502 (05/19/08 2:01 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Overall Rankings ?2Natalie Bolton CP?4Amanda Kimmel CP?4Cirie Fields CP(M)4Parvati Shallow Episode Rating Averages (From most to least) (INV=1, UTR=2, CP=3, MOR=4, OTT=5) 3.50Natalie Bolton 3.42Cirie Fields 3.17Parvati Shallow 3.08Amanda Kimmel Episode Tone Averages (From most to least) (NN=-2, N=-1, neutral=0, P=1, PP=2) 0.500Cirie Fields 0.250Amanda Kimmel 0.250Parvati Shallow 0.000Natalie Bolton Episode Visibility Averages (From most to least) 4.25Amanda Kimmel 4.17Parvati Shallow 3.67Cirie Fields 2.42Natalie Bolton Season Rating Averages (From most to least) (INV=1, UTR=2, CP=3, MOR=4, OTT=5) 4.06Ozzy Lusth 4.00Mikey Bortone 3.82Kathleen Sleckman 3.79Jonathan Penner 3.64Erik Reichenbach 3.56Chet Welch 3.53Joel Anderson 3.37James Clement 3.31Jason Siska 3.29Johnny Fairplay 3.13Cirie Fields 3.09Tracy Hughes-Wolf 3.03Eliza Orlins 2.83Parvati Shallow 2.78Amanda Kimmel 2.63Alexis Jones 2.50Ami Cusack 2.43Yau-Man Chan 2.25Mary Sartain 2.09Natalie Bolton Season Tone Averages (From most positive to least) (NN=-2, N=-1, neutral=0, P=1, PP=2) 0.371Tracy Hughes-Wolf 0.329Yau-Man Chan 0.324Kathleen Sleckman 0.301Erik Reichenbach 0.209Eliza Orlins 0.096Ami Cusack 0.054Mary Sartain 0.041Jonathan Penner 0.023Alexis Jones 0.000Johnny Fairplay -0.004James Clement -0.024Amanda Kimmel -0.069Ozzy Lusth -0.070Jason Siska -0.072Cirie Fields -0.144Parvati Shallow -0.170Natalie Bolton -0.289Joel Anderson -0.494Mikey Bortone -0.525Chet Welch Season Visibility Averages (From most to least) 5.00Johnny Fairplay 3.79Joel Anderson 3.71Ozzy Lusth 3.45Jonathan Penner 3.24Mikey Bortone 3.20Eliza Orlins 3.19Cirie Fields 3.01Tracy Hughes-Wolf 2.92Kathleen Sleckman 2.70Jason Siska 2.69Erik Reichenbach 2.68Chet Welch 2.67Parvati Shallow 2.51Amanda Kimmel 2.21James Clement 2.17Yau-Man Chan 2.13Ami Cusack 1.99Alexis Jones 1.93Mary Sartain 1.56Natalie Bolton MOR differencial (Sum difference from middle of road for total season) 0.40Cirie Fields 0.44Eliza Orlins 0.47Tracy Hughes-Wolf 0.64Parvati Shallow 0.68Jason Siska 0.73Amanda Kimmel 1.17James Clement 1.23Kathleen Sleckman 1.26Erik Reichenbach 1.29Jonathan Penner 1.40Alexis Jones 1.40Chet Welch 1.47Ami Cusack 1.61Joel Anderson 1.73Yau-Man Chan 1.73Mikey Bortone 1.84Ozzy Lusth 1.88Mary Sartain 2.29Johnny Fairplay 2.52Natalie Bolton Close Calls Rating Natalie Bolton INV (0%), UTR (0%), CP (50%), MOR (50%), OTT (0%) Tone Amanda Kimmel NN (0%), N (16.7%), neutral (41.7%), P (41.7%), PP (0%)(note: 5 out of 5 neutral votes were for dynamic) Cirie Fields NN (0%), N (0%), neutral (50%), P (50%), PP (0%)(note: 2 out of 6 neutral votes were for dynamic) Visibility --none-- Total Voters: 12 Hey Everyone, it's been a pleasure being your stats guy for 3 years and 6 seasons. I hope that someone steps up to do tallies, and I'm more than willing to help that person should they say yes. (I haven't heard from Lemun in a few weeks, was wondering if maybe he just got busy, and if so he might, but at this point I wouldn't bank on it.) I'll pop in every now and then because I'll still be edgicing in my head at least...but by and large this is my retirement day. Peace, Chap (John) ETA: And I'm sure I'll be in Columbus Ohio sometime in the next few years, so I promise to hang out with OTH because you're one of my edgic favorites...I couldn't resist the opportunity to meet someone like you in person. I'll extend a similar offer to anyone visiting West LA if you're looking for someone to hang out with (I'm a coffee guy...so I'd say coffee...but can "do lunch" as well since I'm in LA and that's what we say) I'm only a mile and a half from Venice beach! Last Edited By: chaperone 05/19/08 2:04 PM. Edited 1 times.
Francois40		#5162	[-]
Posts: 2290 (05/19/08 2:11 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Overall Rankings ?2Natalie Bolton CP?4Amanda Kimmel CP?4Cirie Fields CP(M)4Parvati Shallow Oops, a close call for me. Remind me which episode this is for? The finale? ETA: And I'm sure I'll be in Columbus Ohio sometime in the next few years, so I promise to hang out with OTH because you're one of my edgic favorites...I couldn't resist the opportunity to meet someone like you in person. I'll extend a similar offer to anyone visiting West LA if you're looking for someone to hang out with (I'm a coffee guy...so I'd say coffee...but can "do lunch" as well since I'm in LA and that's what we say) I'm only a mile and a half from Venice beach! Hey, I spend 'most every Christmas in Malibu with my sister! We always go into Santa Monica for the movies!
chaperone		#5163	[-]
Posts: 2503 (05/19/08 2:39 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Sorry, this was the tally for the finale. (that's a great rhyme) Dude...drop me an email when you're in town if you want to grab some coffee on the 3rd Street Promenade. JohnSnowden@gmail (I'm leaving off the dot com so bots don't grab my email and spam me) Peace, John
chapera rocks		#5164	[-]
Posts: 8951 (05/19/08 2:42 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Rating Natalie Bolton CP Tone Amanda Kimmel neutral (41.7%) Mixed though Cirie Fields P (50%)
unduli clone		#5165	[-]
Posts: 2870 (05/19/08 2:54 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Oops, I forgot to vote! Natalie - CP Amanda - neu. Cirie - P OnlyTheHunter wrote: Okay, unduli - we can go get a drink or something (so long as it's not coffee) I've always hated coffee - you were right, we are clones! Michael Haha, quit scaring me!
GretchenIsMyGod		#5166	[-]
Posts: 3109 (05/19/08 2:59 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	What about a beer? Everyone likes to grab a beer, right? Oh well, replace "Philly" with "DC" for June - August, or maybe "Brooklyn" for August.
astroline		#5167	[-]
Posts: 1186 (05/19/08 3:27 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Close calls... Amanda - P Cirie - P Natalie - CP And GIMG, I like to grab a beer but I'm only 19 so I have to resort to doing so in other ways. :) If anyone's ever in the Providence, Rhode Island, area, hit up astro!
beatles20147		#5168	[-]
Posts: 11581 (05/19/08 5:20 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	GIMG, you're in South Philly, right? My grandparents live there so I'm sure I'll be there at some point this summer. Ditto to Astro's beer comment, but of course, nothing beats Nifty Fifty's over in Jersey (it's only a half-hour drive or so). If anyone ever happens to be near GMU for some inane reason (I can't really think of a good one), let me know! There's...um...there's a Chick-Fil-A. That's about it.
scepticA		#5169	[-]
Posts: 1378 (05/19/08 6:18 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	The edit wanted us to root for Cirie, so P is logical. But as her WD I'm going to have to think about it... Okay. P. Chap, thank you.
OnlyTheHunter		#5170	[-]
Posts: 1549 (05/19/08 7:10 PM) Edgician Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Let me say, in complete seriousness - mmmmmmmm. Chick-Fil-A! Waffle fries! mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Amanda was Mixed at best. the tantrum, etc. I couldn't call her P at all. Since all the neutral votes are Mixed, it's a Call of Mixed or P, and Mixed is my unwavering opinion. I don't know about Cirie. Some karma, but her goodbye was touching, and part of her edit. I think I voted Mixed, or neutral, but I'm open to any opinion there. Michael
getting real		#5171	[-]
Posts: 1211 (05/19/08 8:28 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	OK, I realize it's a long shot, but of anyone is ever passing through Melbourne, Australia, I'm ready to chuck a shrimp on the barbie! And take you to a game of Australian Rules football, the fastest and most brutal ball game on the planet!
craig		#5172	[-]
Posts: 13172 (05/19/08 8:54 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	For the Finale, ALL the girls should be CP and ALL should be Neu (or equally mildly P). Editing generally didn't take sides. Natalie (CP) - left early, but she got the same quality edit while on screen as the others. We saw her feelings about Parv and the women's alliance and we saw her strategize. Cirie (Neu) - she was no more P than Parv. All the girls were celebrating or gloating (depending on perspective) early on. All the girls were taken aback by the switch to F3 and felt bad about it. All had sympathy and rerspect for one another. Parv got the provider scene climbing a tree to get cocunuts, which showed P intent. The fight between Cirie and Amanda was slightly N for both. Amanda's t.ears at TC weren't seen as P by the jury. Parv > Cirie > Amanda is how I'd rank their tone (althiugh no large gaps) This is a classic case where a player gets screwed by a twist and as usual editing does not go out of it's way to make us feel for it's victim. Of course Cirie fandom feels sympathy for her anyway. They justified the twist when they had Cirie say she got blindsided as she blindsided others (not to mention her ep12 delight at the thought of James's leaving, which caused the twist). Parv also said they were "humbled" rather than delighting at the thought of getting rid of Cirie. Last Edited By: craig 05/19/08 9:04 PM. Edited 2 times.
cindidindi76		#5173	[-]
Posts: 10594 (05/19/08 9:00 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	getting real wrote: OK, I realize it's a long shot, but of anyone is ever passing through Melbourne, Australia, I'm ready to chuck a shrimp on the barbie! And take you to a game of Australian Rules football, the fastest and most brutal ball game on the planet! I would absolutely LOVE to go see that! Sadly, I don't think I'll be anywhere near Australia anytime soon, lol. Let me say, in complete seriousness - mmmmmmmm. Chick-Fil-A! Waffle fries! mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I've only ever been there twice, but I love that place. Sadly, they don't seem to have any this far north. Or at least not anywhere near me.
Oowatanite		#5174	[-]
Posts: 5239 (05/19/08 10:04 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	craig wrote: James's leaving, which caused the twist Okay, I've seen this comment by many posters in several threads. Why/How does the evacuation of James result in a change from F3 to F2 ?
unduli clone		#5175	[-]
Posts: 2871 (05/19/08 10:10 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	^ I believe the theory behind it is that they had all the challenges built and wanted to use them all instead of wasting the loads of money it takes to build them. So the F5 IC was originally the F6 IC, the F4 originally F5 and so forth. So we've got people in LA, ATL, Chicago, Providence, DC... I wanna road trip and visit the Edgicians this year! And grabbing a beer would be great. I can do that in August. I may be 20, thin as a rail and gay, but I <3 my beer.
GretchenIsMyGod		#5176	[-]
Posts: 3110 (05/19/08 10:39 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	beatles20147 wrote: GIMG, you're in South Philly, right? My grandparents live there so I'm sure I'll be there at some point this summer. Ditto to Astro's beer comment, but of course, nothing beats Nifty Fifty's over in Jersey (it's only a half-hour drive or so). If anyone ever happens to be near GMU for some inane reason (I can't really think of a good one), let me know! There's...um...there's a Chick-Fil-A. That's about it. I am! Though from now through August I'll be hopping around from DC to Philly to NYC, though, my home is certainly Philly (or lease, at least). And I love waffle fries...
OnlyTheHunter		#5177	[-]
Posts: 1550 (05/19/08 11:52 PM) Edgician Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	unduli changed on me by saying I may be 20, thin as a rail and gay, Uh, about that clone thing - 20 / 38, thin as a rail / Chris Daugherty's stunt double, gay / divorced straight male, married to the devil who turned out to be a woman Well, three strikes, yada yada. Those Chick waffle fries - I get the nugget combo and always get an extra order of fries, you can't get enough. Hence the not thin thing. Michael
nikkidj		#5178	[-]
Posts: 221 (05/20/08 12:42 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I just had those waffle fries this week. Yummm...
cantthinkofaname		#5179	[-]
Posts: 1139 (05/20/08 1:38 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Everyone likes to grab a beer, right? I could grab a beer now, I'm no longer under-aged (turned 21 on the 3rd). I don't like beer though, I like mixed drinks. So, when do we start posting overall ratings? Wednesday?
craig		#5180	[-]
Posts: 13176 (05/20/08 2:38 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Okay, I've seen this comment by many posters in several threads. Why/How does the evacuation of James result in a change from F3 to F2 ? If James doesn't leave in the middle of an episode, the only way they can have a F2 is with: (a) a surprise double boot episode (b) a surprise triple boot finale (c) adding a 15th episode a speeding up late boots faster than a 3 day cycle Can't see them doing any of those things.

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