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She's certainly earned a lot of respect from me Ravu, although I was never a hater/disapprover of Parvati in the first place.

Yeah, I don't recall you hating Parvati really. I was referring more to people categorizing her as a slut, being a Amber-like follower, etc. and basically completely rewriting history for whatever reason. I am glad to see 7neves7 do a 180 on his ill-founded Parvati hate

The fact that she was part of the moronic foursome that just had to vote for Yul, despite the simplest of logic being that he was the only one who had the HII certainly has deserved her a lot of criticism, but the simple fact of the matter is she won it all in an impressive manner.

I've already explained how that wasn't necessarily moronic. Letting Yul slide by with the powerful idol wouldn't be a superior decision Quid. It would weaken the Aitu 4 as a whole, but would that increase her winning chances? That just makes Jonathan more powerful, which is why Yul was being targeted hardcore to begin with. If we get rid of Becky for instance, then the game plays out completely differently:

Nate/Parvati - Adam/Candice/Jonathan - Yul/Sundra/Ozzy

It wouldn't necessarily be Raro picking off Aitu 1 by 1, because they dynamics of that game weren't so simple (it only turned out that way, because Jonathan played Kingmaker to Yul). Nate was courting Ozzy, and had a prior tribe connection to Sundra. Aitu would still have their connections to one another. And Candice/Jonathan would still have pre-existing ties with Yul/Sundra/Ozzy should they feel compelled to use them. That would leave Parvati in a highly vulnerable spot to leave Yul in the game at F8 with the idol and a connection with Jonathan, and thus the propsect of him empowering the Adam/Candice/Jonathan faction even more, while still being unable to completely marginalize the Aitu connections. Parvati's biggest mistake was taking out allies like Jenny over Jonathan, but I thought that was somewhat reasonable

She's proved that gameplay wise, she's as far from Amber as you can get.

Thank god. Finally an assertive active puppet master female strategist winner. I can't believe we haven't had 1 after all these seasons

Ravu, I think does a hell of a lot better than sixth if she and her Raro buddies vote out Becky instead of voting for Yul.

Maybe. We can't really predict it for sure. The main issue I had with your comment was calling her and Raro's decision "moronic" when we're completely speculating. The predicament she faced at F9 was more symptomatic of game moves and factors made much earlier--namely Candice and Jonathan's mutiny which really set into motion a series of events and controlled the flow of the game significantly

I think you're downplaying Parvati's position by putting Jonathan ahead of her in the pecking order. The F3 with Raro in charge post merge is Candice-Adam-Parvati, not Candice-Adam-Jonathan.

We don't know for sure. I'm aware of the Candice/Adam/Parvati alliance, but obviously, guess who's in the driver seat in both those scenarios? Candice/Adam--not Parvati. That was what I was referring to. And given that Jonathan is an additional factor with the potential of swinging Yul to his side, that gives Candice even more subtle power. Parvati would certainly do well had she taken out someone like Becky at F9, but she certainly isn't a "moron" for not realizing Jonathan was going to jump ship like he did at that time. She just underestimated Yul's social and strategic game, but it certainly wasn't common sense to think Jonathan would go back to those he had betrayed at the mutiny

In any case, I'm sure we've discussed this scenario for 10+ pages before, so lets leave it alone. Rather than focus on her mistakes in Cook Islands, let's focus on what a great game she played in Micronesia. :P

I wasn't focusing on her mistakes. You're the 1 who called her and Raro morons, which I've never done

Danni? Tina? Both controlled the end game like Parvati did. Their games aren't really comparable with Parvati's, but I would say both could be labeled puppetmasters.

I said "assertive". Danni and Tina were subtle game controlling puppet masters using pawns behind the scenes to do their dirty work (Keith, Colby, Ethan (ASS Tina), Rafe). No female has been as aggressive and overt with her control and won the game like Parvati. The closest female would be Sandra, but there were times that Sandra played follower and also had innate UTR status as well