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chad6		#141	[-]
Posts: 1491 (05/10/08 9:33 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I didn't say Cirie would vote for Parv just becuase Amanda voted her off. I believe Cirie will vote for Parv becuase she played the better game (which I think she did too), but if Amanda does indeed vote her off at the F3, I don't think there is any room for Amanda to gain Cirie's vote, thus, guaranteeing a Parv vote from Cirie.
Relynn		#142	[-]
Posts: 586 (05/10/08 9:35 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	chad6 wrote: I didn't say Cirie would vote for Parv just becuase Amanda voted her off. I believe Cirie will vote for Parv becuase she played the better game (which I think she did too), but if Amanda does indeed vote her off at the F3, I don't think there is any room for Amanda to gain Cirie's vote, thus, guaranteeing a Parv vote from Cirie. Whose to say Cirie thinks that...She may have a different perception of both girl's games... Cirie and Amanda were together from Day one, and spent that time on the disasterous tribe together too. Cirie may feel that Amanda is a big reason she survived that particular tribe...... Last Edited By: Relynn 05/10/08 9:38 PM. Edited 1 times.
phoenixtobootcamp		#143	[-]
Posts: 13 (05/10/08 9:38 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Relynn wrote: It would be pretty horrible of Cirie to automatically give her vote to the person who "lost" that challenge. I have no doubt if Cirie wins the Final 3 immunity challenge that she'd take Parv because she's playing for her family and kids....She can't expect Amanda or Parv to act any differently. If Cirie goes to the Final 3, both girls kept their words, and she has no real cause to feel betrayed by either girl. She should base her vote on who she thinks played the best/who she likes the best..Neither girl would have backstabbed her.. 2nd! It would be hypocritical of Cirie. I really think Cirie would vote strictly on gameplay. And social game is a big part of survivor. Thank you for bringing some optimism to the Amanda!camp. :D
chad6		#144	[-]
Posts: 1493 (05/10/08 9:39 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I didn't say I know that Cirie will think/vote that way. I THINK/BELIEVE she will. Everyone here is expressing what they think, not what they know. I think she will vote for Parv becuase she played the better game.
Relynn		#145	[-]
Posts: 588 (05/10/08 9:41 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	phoenixtobootcamp wrote: Relynn wrote: It would be pretty horrible of Cirie to automatically give her vote to the person who "lost" that challenge. I have no doubt if Cirie wins the Final 3 immunity challenge that she'd take Parv because she's playing for her family and kids....She can't expect Amanda or Parv to act any differently. If Cirie goes to the Final 3, both girls kept their words, and she has no real cause to feel betrayed by either girl. She should base her vote on who she thinks played the best/who she likes the best..Neither girl would have backstabbed her.. 2nd! It would be hypocritical of Cirie. I really think Cirie would vote strictly on gameplay. And social game is a big part of survivor. Thank you for bringing some optimism to the Amanda!camp. :D Who says that Amanda wins the challenge too. I think editing suggests that perhaps Amanda loses a challenge somewhere. While I want Amanda to win and beat Parv, I also don't want Cirie to vote for Amanda because Parvati booted her at Final 3. In this circumstance, it really wouldn't be fair, both girls did their best to go to the end with Cirie and fate just did it.... If I won immunity in a situation like that. I'd tell them that I love them both, and because of this I will make my decision based on who I think I can beat.. Not who I like more. The fact that Ozzy was making comments on how great Cirie is, how she has kids and needs the money suggests that perhaps Amanda/him are very friendly with Cirie...(but who knows) Last Edited By: Relynn 05/10/08 9:43 PM. Edited 1 times.
phoenixtobootcamp		#146	[-]
Posts: 14 (05/10/08 9:47 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Relynn wrote: Who says that Amanda wins the challenge too. I think editing suggests that perhaps Amanda loses a challenge somewhere. While I want Amanda to win and beat Parv, I also don't want Cirie to vote for Amanda because Parvati booted her at Final 3. In this circumstance, it really wouldn't be fair, both girls did their best to go to the end with Cirie and fate just did it.... If I won immunity in a situation like that. I'd tell them that I love them both, and because of this I will make my decision based on who I think I can beat.. Not who I like more. The fact that Ozzy was making comments on how great Cirie is, how she has kids and needs the money suggests that perhaps Amanda/him are very friendly with Cirie...(but who knows) I am not even talking about who wins or takes / not takes Cirie to F2. Hypothetically speaking, I'd use different strokes... formula. I would tell Cirie straight up that if it were her she'd do what's best for her and I would never fault her for it. And I hope she'd grant me the same respect. Amanda will only be bettering her chances by taking Parv and I think it would be legit reasoning for Cirie. She'd understand and respect it. If Parv wins, I'd suppose she can use your tactic though. Yeah, I noticed that too. I've seen at least Oz and Erik make such comments about Cirie. Don't know about Amanda yet.
tullfan2		#147	[-]
Posts: 2655 (05/10/08 10:14 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Relynn wrote: phoenixtobootcamp wrote: Relynn wrote: It would be pretty horrible of Cirie to automatically give her vote to the person who "lost" that challenge. I have no doubt if Cirie wins the Final 3 immunity challenge that she'd take Parv because she's playing for her family and kids....She can't expect Amanda or Parv to act any differently. If Cirie goes to the Final 3, both girls kept their words, and she has no real cause to feel betrayed by either girl. She should base her vote on who she thinks played the best/who she likes the best..Neither girl would have backstabbed her.. 2nd! It would be hypocritical of Cirie. I really think Cirie would vote strictly on gameplay. And social game is a big part of survivor. Thank you for bringing some optimism to the Amanda!camp. :D Who says that Amanda wins the challenge too. I think editing suggests that perhaps Amanda loses a challenge somewhere. While I want Amanda to win and beat Parv, I also don't want Cirie to vote for Amanda because Parvati booted her at Final 3. In this circumstance, it really wouldn't be fair, both girls did their best to go to the end with Cirie and fate just did it.... If I won immunity in a situation like that. I'd tell them that I love them both, and because of this I will make my decision based on who I think I can beat.. Not who I like more. The fact that Ozzy was making comments on how great Cirie is, how she has kids and needs the money suggests that perhaps Amanda/him are very friendly with Cirie...(but who knows) I'm expecting the Final IC to be a redux of the Final IC from the first season in Palau except that it won't last nearly as long. Once Cire drops out, Parvati and Amanda will cut a deal and the challenge will be over. Whoever wins will vote out Cirie. She won't hold it against the winner because both Parvati and Amanda would vote out Cirie as they are BFF.
Relynn		#148	[-]
Posts: 590 (05/10/08 10:16 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	phoenixtobootcamp wrote: Relynn wrote: Who says that Amanda wins the challenge too. I think editing suggests that perhaps Amanda loses a challenge somewhere. While I want Amanda to win and beat Parv, I also don't want Cirie to vote for Amanda because Parvati booted her at Final 3. In this circumstance, it really wouldn't be fair, both girls did their best to go to the end with Cirie and fate just did it.... If I won immunity in a situation like that. I'd tell them that I love them both, and because of this I will make my decision based on who I think I can beat.. Not who I like more. The fact that Ozzy was making comments on how great Cirie is, how she has kids and needs the money suggests that perhaps Amanda/him are very friendly with Cirie...(but who knows) I am not even talking about who wins or takes / not takes Cirie to F2. Hypothetically speaking, I'd use different strokes... formula. I would tell Cirie straight up that if it were her she'd do what's best for her and I would never fault her for it. And I hope she'd grant me the same respect. Amanda will only be bettering her chances by taking Parv and I think it would be legit reasoning for Cirie. She'd understand and respect it. If Parv wins, I'd suppose she can use your tactic though. Yeah, I noticed that too. I've seen at least Oz and Erik make such comments about Cirie. Don't know about Amanda yet. I can easily see Amanda breaking down if she has to choose...Honestly though I'm not sure if I'd tell either girl how I'm voting because it may make it worse...I'd probably give them hints and just say I'm taking the person I feel I have the best shot against... And I'd expect both of you to do the same....Because in the end, we are all playing for our families and for ourselves... And the thing is while Cirie definetly has a family and that's important and all. Who says that Amanda/ Parv don't want kids someday.. If kids are even remotely in their plans for themselves, they need to think about that potential too...
roxbury123		#149	[-]
Posts: 256 (05/10/08 10:23 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	The whole Amanda/Cirie thing struck me this episode. I'm going to say Natalie wins immunity and Parv is convinced to vote off Amanda over Cirie because Amanda is a threat.
FranklinBluth		#150	[-]
Posts: 1611 (05/10/08 10:29 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Possibility: Nat wins F4 Immunity. Nat and Cirie vote for Amanda, Amanda and Parv stay true to each other and vote for Cirie. Cirie wins firemaking challenge. I would be giddy with glee!
Relynn		#151	[-]
Posts: 593 (05/10/08 10:34 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	FranklinBluth wrote: Possibility: Nat wins F4 Immunity. Nat and Cirie vote for Amanda, Amanda and Parv stay true to each other and vote for Cirie. Cirie wins firemaking challenge. I would be giddy with glee! No way will Amanda/Parv vote for Cirie, they are more likely to vote for Nat... (especially if they don't know about Cirie's decision).
shoeless rye		#152	[-]
Posts: 5016 (05/10/08 10:37 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Relynn wrote: FranklinBluth wrote: Possibility: Nat wins F4 Immunity. Nat and Cirie vote for Amanda, Amanda and Parv stay true to each other and vote for Cirie. Cirie wins firemaking challenge. I would be giddy with glee! No way will Amanda/Parv vote for Cirie, they are more likely to vote for Nat... (especially if they don't know about Cirie's decision). The hypothetical had Natalie winning the immunity necklace. However if there is ever a scenario where Amanda doesn't have immunity I think she's the obvious bootee.
FranklinBluth		#153	[-]
Posts: 1612 (05/10/08 10:38 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I'm saying that's what'll happen if Nat wins F4 Immunity. If that happens I don't think Parv and Amanda would vote for each other. I mean, the spoilers lean toward Nat going at F4 TC, but the spoilers also point to a F2 which I still don't think is gonna happen.
Relynn		#154	[-]
Posts: 594 (05/10/08 10:40 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	shoeless rye wrote: Relynn wrote: FranklinBluth wrote: Possibility: Nat wins F4 Immunity. Nat and Cirie vote for Amanda, Amanda and Parv stay true to each other and vote for Cirie. Cirie wins firemaking challenge. I would be giddy with glee! No way will Amanda/Parv vote for Cirie, they are more likely to vote for Nat... (especially if they don't know about Cirie's decision). The hypothetical had Natalie winning the immunity necklace. However if there is ever a scenario where Amanda doesn't have immunity I think she's the obvious bootee. Amanda SHOULD be the bootee, but she won't be.. The scene with Cirie/Amanda/Parv was to telling.. With the ominious music and all there girls in the boot, and Jonathon/Eliza and company watching their sidelines (and impending doom).
shoeless rye		#155	[-]
Posts: 5017 (05/10/08 10:51 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	If Amanda isn't the boot when they have the opportunity to do so, maybe all of the "She'll win if she is F3" talk from Alexis, Erik and Nat in the past few episodes was done to explain a mistake in Parvati's game. I mean she's the ice princess all season and then can't make one last move when everybody has been saying Amanda is unbeatable if F3?? Of course it could also win her some votes because it shows she had loyalty to somebody - however if she was prepared to lose and be loyal, why wouldn't she have been loyal to her friend outside the game, Ozzy, over a woman she met the day the tribe was introduced?
Stranded		#156	[-]
Posts: 2068 (05/11/08 12:19 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	But how is it that at the Alexis TC, Parv absolutely refused to vote out Amanda and now she would change? I feel like that is the one constant in her game, she's loyal to one thing and one thing only - Amanda. I just don't see her taking Amanda out in the end game, because she can always claim she played the better game. With the favorites' obsession with domination this season, I don't see them letting some two bit skank like Natalie into the finals with them. I definitely think it'll be the three faves in the end. And PS, great games played by the last three faves. I'm incredibly impressed.
urrout		#157	[-]
Posts: 1696 (05/11/08 12:31 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	She knew her vote was not needed to boot Amanda. She was just playing for Amanda's jury vote. She did nothing to try and save Amanda until she found out Amanda could get the II. It has yet to be really proven that Parvati would not boot Amanda.
sunflower101		#158	[-]
Posts: 1353 (05/11/08 12:55 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	chad6 wrote: I didn't say Cirie would vote for Parv just becuase Amanda voted her off. I believe Cirie will vote for Parv becuase she played the better game (which I think she did too), but if Amanda does indeed vote her off at the F3, I don't think there is any room for Amanda to gain Cirie's vote, thus, guaranteeing a Parv vote from Cirie. I do believe that Cire should vote for who played the best game. People should vote on game play though, not on who voted them out. By that logic Yau-Man should have voted for Cassandra or Dreamz in Fiji.
sunflower101		#159	[-]
Posts: 1354 (05/11/08 1:08 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	FranklinBluth wrote: One thing that I've been thinking about is how Cirie was never featured in the pre-show promos. She's one of the most popular favorites coming Then I think about the "In the end, Cirie got one vote, but also got her way" comment in recap after the Yau boot episode. That just SCREAMS foreshadowing to me. I think Cire could lose because she is the mastermind but a lot of the jury doesn't know it. They might credit some of Cire's game moves to Parvati. In one of the insider clips James said he thought the female's alliance was run by Alexis/Parvati.
sunflower101		#160	[-]
Posts: 1355 (05/11/08 1:13 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	AmightyRo wrote: JEff pretty much said Amanda has a breakdown during the finale. AGAIN. Also emphasizes that PARVATI is playing a good game. Where did Jeff Probst say this. I haven't seen this interview. I would like to read it.Even if she has a break down it doesn't mean she loses the game. She has Ozzy working for her on the jury. Of course it just might be a break down at being voted out. She didn't have two guaranteed votes in China.

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