Did Eric slip in interview?

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Eating With Kim		#41	[-]
Posts: 955 (05/10/08 3:31 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Reality TV World: What if she had recovered the idol? Are you confident you two would have worked together? Erik: Yeah. I think so. I think the trust would have stayed there. The only thing that would put a doubt in my mind is knowing now that Natalie and Parv were so close. You'll see this in the next episode, how close they are. It's pretty weird. I take that to mean that Parvati finally betrays Amanda and keeps Natalie instead. And regarding Ozzy's bursting "adoration"...it doesn't necessarily mean that Amanda is in the F3/F2. He could be bursting for adoration for her as a fellow jury member, and his adoration could be the genesis of the "bitter" feelings towards Parvati and/or Cirie for voting Amanda out. Of course, if he wasn't such a tool, his adoration would be for someone like Cirie, who can actually play the damn mental side of this game.
Relynn		#42	[-]
Posts: 560 (05/10/08 3:53 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	sunflower101 wrote: Interesting that Erik says that all of the women betrayed him. Didn't Alexis on her blog say that her/Erik/Amanda/Ozzy spent some time watching the tv show together or something like that. That doesn't sound like someone that is still holding a grudge over the game. Yes, but there is an article with his mother commenting about the conniving women and her son being raised right. I think it's totally possible that those closest to Eric freaked out and he's being influenced by that. Personally, I don't think Eric is an innocent party.
sunflower101		#43	[-]
Posts: 1347 (05/10/08 3:56 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	We don't know who the favorite to have the break down is. If Amanda has a break down coudl it be after getting blindsided? I still think that Amanda gets to the end based on her edit. However if Amanda does get blindsided by Parvati and that sends Ozzy over the edge and why he mention Amanda in his jury questions. I am just speculating here. Parvati made a big deal being loyal to Amanda during the Alexis boot. She said she couldn't vote out Amanda in front of the jury. That won't look good if she makes it to the end and votes out Amanda.
Fatashhh		#44	[-]
Posts: 236 (05/10/08 9:22 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Eric's comment about how close Natalie and Parvati is, will probably be Parvati crying when Natalie was voted out (probably only an act to gain her jury vote). Parvati already said that she wont betray Amanda, and strategically it makes zero sense, if Parvati voted Amanda out, she will probably got zero votes, and I dont think anyone will respect her gameplay of screwing everyone including her self proclaimed little sister and best friend, and Parvati will be smart not to do that. Even if she voted out Natalie at Final 4, I am pretty sure she will get her vote. And, I think Eric will vote for Amanda, because it seems that he didnt realize he was being manipulated that much until watching the show, and he did say he didnt know how great Parvati has been playing the game until watching the show. It seems that she voted for Amanda and kind of regretted it after watching the show. (I remember last season was it PG? who said she was surprised to see Amanda playing a strategic game whom she didnt realize during the show).
Heliox		#45	[-]
Posts: 617 (05/10/08 10:52 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Reality TV World: What if she had recovered the idol? Are you confident you two would have worked together? Erik: Yeah. I think so. I think the trust would have stayed there. The only thing that would put a doubt in my mind is knowing now that Natalie and Parv were so close. You'll see this in the next episode, how close they are. It's pretty weird. I don't know if this is relevant, but early rumors said that Natalie was a lesbian. And Parvati has always said she would use flirting to her advantage in this game. I wonder if Parv is using her skills on Natalie. The last TC showed Parv reaching down and kissing Natalie.. obviously could be nothing, but thought this quote from Eric was intriguing.
birdlady		#46	[-]
Posts: 1288 (05/10/08 11:01 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I think when Erik says it's weird, he means more like "I am inarticulate" than like "OMG women on women". But yeah, Jason too had said something like that he thought Natalie had a crush on Parvati. It could be a girlcrush, not a girlcrush, but I am thinking that was part of the dymanics out there. Hopefully one of the post show interviewers can ask about it (informationally not pruriently).
chapera rocks		#47	[-]
Posts: 8889 (05/10/08 11:55 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Erik said that in Micronesia, he would have taken Nat and Cirie to the end, but in hindsight, he would have taken Parv and Nat. Why would he take Parv if he thought she won?
Fatashhh		#48	[-]
Posts: 237 (05/10/08 1:31 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	chapera rocks wrote: Erik said that in Micronesia, he would have taken Nat and Cirie to the end, but in hindsight, he would have taken Parv and Nat. Why would he take Parv if he thought she won? thats a good point, maybe Parvati took a lot of heat in the Final Tribal Council?
jmpenn90		#49	[-]
Posts: 1 (05/10/08 3:32 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I think we have more evidence that Amanda does make the finals then we do that she doesn't. 1. When asked who he wanted to win Ozzy said he didn't want to jinx anyone. This was after the show was finished filming. The only ones he wouldn't want to jinx are Amanda and James and since James is out it has to be Amanda. 2. Ozzy is bursting with adoring emotions. If that is during the last tribal counsel I can't really see him talking to Amanda if she is on the jury next to him. The only thing we have that makes it look like Amanda won't make it is Eric's interview. Also I don't see anyway that Parv doesn't make it to the finals. All of them would take her since she has made many on the jury mad. Plus they are all close to Parv. I don't really care who wins but I don't really want Nat to win. All four have played a good game though.
urrout		#50	[-]
Posts: 1693 (05/10/08 3:49 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Ozzy also said Cirie deserves it more than most and he doesn't blame her. She is a puppetmaster. She needed to be good at manipulating because she was not good at challenges and he always knew that was the way she handled things. He wished he had been better friends with her to make it further in the game. She has a big family and she needs it. Not jinxing anyone, could just be so Parvati doesn't win, not necessarily that Amanda does.
mikeonfilm		#51	[-]
Posts: 1377 (05/10/08 5:22 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Reality TV World:-- Erik: ....The only thing that would put a doubt in my mind is knowing now that Natalie and Parv were so close. You'll see this in the next episode, how close they are. It's pretty weird. ---------------- Reality TV World: So do you think Cirie and Natalie's decision will ultimately hurt them? Erik: ...They were looking at the girls alliance, and not realizing that within the girls alliance Parvati and Amanda were even closer. That's some mixed messages there.
sunflower101		#52	[-]
Posts: 1350 (05/10/08 11:10 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Relynn wrote: Yes, but there is an article with his mother commenting about the conniving women and her son being raised right. I think it's totally possible that those closest to Eric freaked out and he's being influenced by that. Personally, I don't think Eric is an innocent party. I just not a fan of Erik trying to act like he is mister innocent. First off it is a game and he should know things like this happen from watching the show. He could be upset about how they went about it, but the only one that was left he had any kind of alliance with left was Natalie. They where aligned pre-merge before the tribe split. Erik also shouldn't have promised several people alliances. I don't like Erik's complain all of the women where evil or something especially when he had already tried to vote one of them out.. Amanda/Parvati didn't trick him out of his necklace that was Natalie/Cire. Erik was hoping to take out either Parvati or Amanda with that vote. Plus he had just tried to vote out Amanda. I don't think Erik owed it to keep Amanda if it hurt his game, but he can't complain then if he tries to vote her out and She stays and then she no longer trusts him. Erik also said in an interview that Alexis wouldn't have done anything like that. One that is posted on Survivor.com. Honestly how does Erik know that she wouldn't? Alexis's main ally was Natalie. I think Alexis would have joined right in with the other women. I haven't seen Alexis bad mouth Natalie at all in any of her interviews. Yeah Erik's blindside hadn't been shown yet, but she defended Natalie on the Jason boot. So Alexis was for all the blindsides. I actually like Alexis most out of the fans. I just don't buy Erik's claiming that Alexis wouldn't have joined in the women in manipulating him.
sunflower101		#53	[-]
Posts: 1351 (05/10/08 11:20 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Fatashhh wrote: Eric's comment about how close Natalie and Parvati is, will probably be Parvati crying when Natalie was voted out (probably only an act to gain her jury vote). Parvati already said that she wont betray Amanda, and strategically it makes zero sense, if Parvati voted Amanda out, she will probably got zero votes, and I dont think anyone will respect her gameplay of screwing everyone including her self proclaimed little sister and best friend, and Parvati will be smart not to do that. Even if she voted out Natalie at Final 4, I am pretty sure she will get her vote. And, I think Eric will vote for Amanda, because it seems that he didnt realize he was being manipulated that much until watching the show, and he did say he didnt know how great Parvati has been playing the game until watching the show. It seems that she voted for Amanda and kind of regretted it after watching the show. (I remember last season was it PG? who said she was surprised to see Amanda playing a strategic game whom she didnt realize during the show). I do agree that she manipulated him. Erik is a huge fan of survivor. So I don't like him acting like he is some poor victim, when he had previously tried to vote her out. He stated in front of everybody he didn't want to go the final 3 with Amanda. Did he not think that would give her reason to want him out? I hate it when players act like they where targeted for no reason, when Erik was booted. I think Erik has a very good reason to be mad at Natalie/Cire, but as a fan of Survivor I would think he would own up to being booted by someone he targeted a little bit more. To me he comes off like Alexis does with the idol. Alexis tried to vote out Amanda but some how in Alexis's mind Amanda owed her loyalty. Alexis/Natalie could have voted off Cire. Did Alexis even watch the episode where she was booted. Amanda wanted to boot Natalie but Parvati wanted Alexis out.
sunflower101		#54	[-]
Posts: 1352 (05/10/08 11:30 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	urrout wrote: Ozzy also said Cirie deserves it more than most and he doesn't blame her. She is a puppetmaster. She needed to be good at manipulating because she was not good at challenges and he always knew that was the way she handled things. He wished he had been better friends with her to make it further in the game. She has a big family and she needs it. Not jinxing anyone, could just be so Parvati doesn't win, not necessarily that Amanda does. A lot of the booted this season have been more impressed with Cire's game play after her boot. Ozzy could have been one of those. Ozzy also doesn't blame her because he didn't consider them to be aligned (unlike with Parvati). Last Edited By: sunflower101 05/10/08 11:52 PM. Edited 1 times.
AnomyBC		#55	[-]
Posts: 4766 (05/11/08 1:20 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	So Erik isn't going to vote for anyone? Maybe Erik removes himself from the jury and that's why they needed to have a Final 2?
craig		#56	[-]
Posts: 13065 (05/11/08 3:13 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Erik: I wanted to take Natalie or Parvati to the end, because I thought Parvati would get no votes, and Cirie would get fewer because of whatever reason at the time. RNO: Why didn't you think Parvati would get votes? Erik: She screwed over James pretty bad and made him feel like a fool because he found out after Ozzy was gone that Parvati didn't give a $#!t for him. And she screwed over Ozzy very bad. And Amanda felt like she was out in the cold too. I thought Parvati was a good choice because she had a lot of enemies. RNO: Who was the absolute best at manipulating people this time? Erik: I would say it's a very close call between Cirie and Parvati. RNO: What was the most eye-opening thing you saw on TV that you didn't know about while you were there? Erik: I would say the way Parvati played the game. In general, the way she played and manipulated, I didn't get to see that a lot because I was on Malakal, which was losing out of its mind. I didn't see that there were a lot of women over there [that she was controlling] once Jonathan was gone - it was crazy, she's doing amazing. Sounds like Parvati does better at Final TC than Erik expected. He didn't know about her alliances and friendships. Interesting he doesn'r credit Amanda who manupulated him more than Parv did. Erik was piss poor at predicting jury votes in his own case too.
jensamember36		#57	[-]
Posts: 986 (05/11/08 4:35 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	craig wrote: Erik: I wanted to take Natalie or Parvati to the end, because I thought Parvati would get no votes, and Cirie would get fewer because of whatever reason at the time.THIS RNO: Why didn't you think Parvati would get votes? Erik: She screwed over James pretty bad and made him feel like a fool because he found out after Ozzy was gone that Parvati didn't give a $#!t for him. And she screwed over Ozzy very bad. And Amanda felt like she was out in the cold too. I thought Parvati was a good choice because she had a lot of enemies. AND THIS RNO: Who was the absolute best at manipulating people this time? Erik: I would say it's a very close call between Cirie and Parvati. RNO: What was the most eye-opening thing you saw on TV that you didn't know about while you were there? Erik: I would say the way Parvati played the game. In general, the way she played and manipulated, I didn't get to see that a lot because I was on Malakal, which was losing out of its mind. I didn't see that there were a lot of women over there [that she was controlling] once Jonathan was gone - it was crazy, she's doing amazing. Sounds like Parvati does better at Final TC than Erik expected. He didn't know about her alliances and friendships. Interesting he doesn'r credit Amanda who manupulated him more than Parv did. Erik was piss poor at predicting jury votes in his own case too. makes me think that amanda makes the jury! him wanting to take Cirie, Parv cus of how he saw the votes makes me think they make it, and the relevance of amanda as a jury vote for parvati also!
SurvivorSurvivorSurvivor		#58	[-]
Posts: 5538 (05/11/08 4:51 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I think his messages make for two distinct options. 1 (The long shot): - He mentions Natalie/Parvati's weirdly close relationship. A F2 with Parvati/Natalie playing their brains out would lead to this result. - However, he contradicts this entirely with the Amanda/Parvati bond which would hint at a F2 for the two of them and their closeness. This is what logically would happen from what we've seen. Natalie is booted, then Cirie. 2 (The realistic one) - Erik is completely clueless about the game (as we've seen) and about how Parvati manipulated the girls (as we just read). His shock hints that she does far better in the jury than he expected. The "weird" Natalie relationship means that Parvati forced a tie with Natalie for the hell of it at F4. Or, it just means that she is the one that goes psycho (as I would rightfully assume) when the last tribal council looms and the necklace is draped under the head of a favorite, resulting her to thrust out her feelings for Parvati. She is ultimately evicted despite Amanda's threatening nature because of the bond between Parvati/Amanda that Erik just presented us. Natalie then feels initially betrayed by Parvati but also sees her as the person she really bonded with and had that "weird-psycho" relationship with. Parvati having played the girls big-time, according to Erik, helps give more insight into this in front of the jury, earning her plenty of kudos that Erik didn't expect - including an easy vote such as Alexis. This in turn is what convinces Mr. Jason to vote for her because she strung everyone up like puppets. That's the three votes Parvati needs to at least force a tie. Erik's "if Amanda is there" nonsense is him trying to cover up the obvious given the CBS site/Ozzy. He ultimately votes for Cirie if you read into the slip-up(s). 3-2-Ozzy/James for Amanda = 3-2-2. Falls in line with Probst's "one vote making all of the difference" comment and "Parvati needing to do damage control" which she obviously does at Tribal. James dated Parvati after the show and could also be a vote for her if she's uber-convincing, but I doubt it. This actually fits the 3-2-2 I had predicted. Maybe I'm just damn good? We'll find out in a little over 16 hours. :) Last Edited By: SurvivorSurvivorSurvivor 05/11/08 4:56 AM. Edited 2 times.
sunflower101		#59	[-]
Posts: 1367 (05/11/08 5:07 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	jensamember36 wrote: craig wrote: Erik: I wanted to take Natalie or Parvati to the end, because I thought Parvati would get no votes, and Cirie would get fewer because of whatever reason at the time.THIS RNO: Why didn't you think Parvati would get votes? Erik: She screwed over James pretty bad and made him feel like a fool because he found out after Ozzy was gone that Parvati didn't give a $#!t for him. And she screwed over Ozzy very bad. And Amanda felt like she was out in the cold too. I thought Parvati was a good choice because she had a lot of enemies. AND THIS RNO: Who was the absolute best at manipulating people this time? Erik: I would say it's a very close call between Cirie and Parvati. RNO: What was the most eye-opening thing you saw on TV that you didn't know about while you were there? Erik: I would say the way Parvati played the game. In general, the way she played and manipulated, I didn't get to see that a lot because I was on Malakal, which was losing out of its mind. I didn't see that there were a lot of women over there [that she was controlling] once Jonathan was gone - it was crazy, she's doing amazing. Sounds like Parvati does better at Final TC than Erik expected. He didn't know about her alliances and friendships. Interesting he doesn'r credit Amanda who manupulated him more than Parv did. Erik was piss poor at predicting jury votes in his own case too. makes me think that amanda makes the jury! him wanting to take Cirie, Parv cus of how he saw the votes makes me think they make it, and the relevance of amanda as a jury vote for parvati also! Maybe Amanda gets booted in a way she doesn't blame Parvati. Parvati voted with her during the Alexis boot. It is possible that Amanda gives her a vote out of loyalty.
Firebolt102890		#60	[-]
Posts: 15 (05/12/08 4:13 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	So what was all this "If Amanda had made it" business?

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