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I can't see the videos, but how do you know Smokey only got one? I heard some scary ass screaming in the woods. I think he kicked some ass. I'm sure
Widmore sent plenty of backup in though. Wonder if Widmore even knows the "monster" exists?
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cindidindi76 |
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aslanscubs wrote:
I never took you for a hardcore type of girl, Aslans! ; ) |
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Bobby Jon goes apeshit |
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FeliciaM7 wrote: Miles said there was about six them and its not like a helicopter can carry an army.
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FeliciaM7 |
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And umm Widmore thought 6 dudes could wipe out everyone on the island? What's wrong with that picture? So ya think Smokey just scared the guys in the
jungle? Doesn't seem his style when Ben says "sic 'em". Maybe they all hid and counted to 5.
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I never took you for a hardcore type of girl, Aslans! ; )Hey, you learn new things everyday. ;o) I didn't think about it sounding like that when I wrote that. LOL!
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cindidindi76 |
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I knew that wasn't what you meant, that's why I had to point it out!
I had that thought about Ben/Smokey/Eko too, Felicia. It doesn't make any sense, Eko was one of the first people the Udders tried to steal from the tailies, and then Ben orders him killed? Retribution perhaps? |
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we were talking about that in the epis thread, all the times we have seen Smokey and didi Ben always sic him? Retribution is a good thought for Eko as he
killed a couple of others didn't he...I was also recalling how Locke was not afraid and how smokey seems to be reading his victims and all some had to do
was hide in a tree to avoid it (him?)
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In a recent Podcast Darlton said we'd definitely be seeing more of Ms Hawkins and they implied her connection to the monk would be explained.
They also said that Danielle's full backstory including the sickness and what happened to Montand's arm would be explained. They also suggested that "Montand's Arm" would be an awesome name for a college band |
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Darlton on Jimmy Kimmel highlites:
-S5 will be about Jack's loss of body hair ;) -losing favour with the island seems to be the reason for getting sick (Jack, Ben) -Jimmy: "Ben Linus = Ben Lyin' To Us" -Michael Emerson was hired for a couple eps because they loved him on "The Practice". They had an idea about capturing the leader of the Others and when Michael Emerson knocked it out of the park they made him the leader -Jimmy asked why Smokey killed Eko but not the evil soldiers. Their answer "The monster has different rules for different people". -the kiss in the finale is "better than the one on 'Grey's' finale" :) future ep scene showed: -clip they showed was Locke asking Hurley in front of Ben what could have happened to the Dharma Initiative and then Locke showing Hurley the mass grave. Hurley "What happened to them?" Locke "Ben did." |
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cindidindi76 |
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Ben's a bad motherfucker.
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This is woefully delayed, due to the plague that swept through E! Online last week, but we checked in with Lost coexecutive producer Eddie Kitsis about last
week's ep of Lost, "Something Nice Back Home," and got his awesome insights on:
* What exactly drove Jack to kick-start that pesky Clonazepam addiction? * When we might see the Oceanic Six next? * Why are some characters going crazy while others are finally turning sane? Lesson No. 1, Motherhood Beats Paxil Any Day of the Week: I don't know about you guys, but to me, future Kate is stunningly even-keeled, especially when compared with the girl we've seen before and on the Island. What's up? According to Eddie: "You could say motherhood suits her. In the flash-forwards of this season, and even of last season, when she meets Jack and she's annoyed with him, there's a sense of purpose to her, there's some clarity to her. There's so much devotion to that child, and she appears to be such a great mother-that's maybe what you're picking up on...I think when you have a child, they come first. Even though it's not hers, just the fact of taking care of Aaron may have helped her put away some other issues. Or not. It is Lost." But still...progress! Evangeline Lilly, Lost Lesson No. 2, Happiness Is Hot Coffee and a Warm Girlfriend: According to Eddie: "Like anything with Lost, you're just seeing a small amount of time in what is going to be a much larger picture, but I think 'Something Nice Back Home' was interesting because you saw a time, maybe brief, where Jack was happy. For that brief time, Jack decided after the trial at some point to pursue his relationship with Kate, to go see Aaron, and if you see that first scene, when he steps on the Millennium Falcon and he was making coffee, that was a Jack who was content." So, where'd it all go wrong? Lesson No. 3, Sometimes You Should Just Talk to Your White-Shoed Dead Father: Unlike Hurley, who doesn't take his pills so he's able talk to Charlie, Jack takes pills so he can avoid seeing his dead dad-even though the ever-wise Hurley says that Christian will be coming by specifically to talk to Jack. Why the differing approach to communing with ghosts? Says Eddie: "Jack has always been a man of science. He's always been a man of science, and there has to be something logical. The scene where Jack is starring at the bench where Hurley sits when Charlie visits him, I think in that moment he's thinking, my life right now is pretty good, I don't want to end up here." Awww, come on, Doc, sitting under a banyan tree hanging with your BFF? That's awesome-who cares if the guy is dead?! Elizabeth Mitchell, Lost Lesson No. 4, Jacket Is Down, But Not Out: Don't assume that Juliet's self-sacrificing speech to Kate in the medical tent is the last we'll ever see of Jacket. Says Eddie: "Is that the end of Jack and Juliet? That is a definitive question that I can't answer, because...I can't. Because I work on Lost, and Damon and Carlton are parked outside my house, listening." Translation? It looks to me like a Jacket romance is unlikely at this point, but not altogether off the table. Lesson No. 5, There Are Many Off-Island, O-Six Stories Yet to Come: Don't think that season four is the only season of Oceanic Six stories. According to Eddie: "I think that through the next two seasons, you will see bits and pieces of all the time off the Island, be it when they come back or a year later after they return. There are many interesting stories left to be had for all of the Oceanic Six." |
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Thanks Felicia!
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Mostly stuff we knew already (Sucksters is smrt)
'Lost' adds hoursABC extends final two seasonsMay 9, 2008, 01:00 AM ABC has found more hours for the final two seasons of "Lost."The 2009 and 2010 editions of the hit drama will be 17 hours each -- not 16 as previously planned. ABC has added two hours to the show's production plan because the WGA strike knocked three hours out of the current season. To partly compensate, the network recently added an additional hour to Part 2 of the season finale that airs May 29. All told, the changes will wrap up the show with the same number of episodes that producers and ABC negotiated last year. "We were supposed to do 16-16-16," "Lost" co-creator Damon Lindelof said. "But we ended up doing 14 this season, so we owe two." Lindelof, however, ruled out the show extending beyond the remaining 34-episode order. "(Executive producer) Carlton Cuse and I worked so hard to get the show to end that I think to suddenly say, 'Oh, I think we got another season in us' would be a betrayal to everybody involved in the show -- but most of all the audience," he said. "It's better to retire your number at the top of your game." For the upcoming season finale, Lindelof promised a more action-driven cliffhanger instead of the mind-bending flash-forward time shift that stunned fans last season. "The finale this year will not be as tricky as last year," he said. "Hopefully, this year it's a little bit more of a straightforward action-adventure narrative. But the ending of the episode will hopefully engage and intrigue people looking forward to the next season of the show." Lindelof declined to say whether the flash forwards will continue, but did leave open the possibility of the show's main story line on the island catching up with the flash forwards that have taken place on the mainland this season. "It's very exciting that the audience is going to be wondering when is the present going to be (next season)," he said. "We've moved backward in time, now we've moved forward in time. The present of the show has always been on the island -- that may not necessarily be the case in the future." When it comes time to air the series finale in 2010, Lindelof said he and Cuse plan to "go into hiding for many, many months" at an "undisclosed location." "David Chase set a great example when he went off to Paris after 'The Sopranos' ending, which is great because all these people are going to be asking, 'What does it mean? What is it?' " he said. "The fact that there's no one really around to answer that question, it forces people to come up with what they think it means. We can guarantee our show will not end with a cut to black, it will be more clear than that. But whenever anything you love ends ... there's a certain disappointment." |
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suh-weet!
and on that note, I think I am gonna check outta this thread for the rest of the season |
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CP, there's a pretty cool interview up on EW's Kristin website where they talk a little bit about the show. Not really any spoilery information, but
an interesting read nonetheless.
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CoconutPhone |
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A few podcasts ago Darlton confirmed that a certain character (listed below) was not any sort of fake (Smoke Monster, ghost etc.). It was the real corporeal
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Harper (Juliet's 'nemesis'). |
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Lost's Michael Emerson Teases a "Dark, Violent" Finale
Michael Emerson by Art Streiber/ABC
TVGuide.com: Give me three words to describe the season finale. Michael Emerson: [Thinks] Dark.... Violent.... Casualties. TVGuide.com: About a year ago, you and I spoke about how Ben was loath to ever leave the island. And yet we've now seen that it is something that does happen. What do you think changed there? Ben's attachment to the island was... provisional. He's always been able to leave it. But now there's some question of him maybe having to abandon it - and that's as a result of developments in this last season. TVGuide.com: So it's always been there as an option, and it's only recently that he has chosen to avail himself of it. I think so, yes. Things have gone so wrong. Events have forced his hand in a number of ways. And John Locke appears to have been "anointed" somehow.... TVGuide.com: And Ben appears to be making some sort of peace with that shift. Yes. His gut reaction is that of a teenage boy, which is to be vengeful and full of rage and bitterness. But eventually, he will always play the board as it is in front of him. He will accept the terms. TVGuide.com: "Whatever makes Jacob happy." Exactly. TVGuide.com: When you first were pitched this role, did they give you any hint as to the scope of Ben's involvement in the mythology? No. I doubt if they even knew it at that time! As far as I knew, it was to be three episodes. I think it was an experiment, one that worked out happily. TVGuide.com: They've told me that the same thing happened with Nestor Carbonell. They didn't have any "grand plan" for Richard Alpert, but once he became available, they said, "We could do something here." Yeah... And he's a great character. It makes my mouth water to think what they could do with Richard Alpert. TVGuide.com: The guy is just flitting around time no worse for the wear, no nose bleeds.... Right, and he's just one of the eeriest characters. TVGuide.com: You received an Emmy nod last year for Lost. Does an actor ever settle into a role and think, "You know what? This could be an award-winning project, if I do the right things with it"? I tend to just show up and do the work. I don't think too much about those more popular issues. Partly because I'm a creature of the theater and am therefore more superstitious. Some things are not to be said or thought, if you can avoid it. It begs for the gods to punish you for your hubris. It is flattering when it comes, though. Last year, I thought, "Oh my god, I am having more impact that I thought." TVGuide.com: And with a dark role that doesn't always connect with voters. And we work in such isolation, too. That's a contributing factor. We're out there in Hawaii, there are no paparazzi, there are no fancy parties.... We get up before the sun, drive to some remote location, and punish ourselves all day long. You don't get a strong grasp as to how it's received on the rest of the globe. TVGuide.com: Are we to make anything of the fact that both Ben's mother and Locke's mother were named Emily? Well, that very idea occurred to me last week - and I'm usually the slowest on the uptake with those kinds of clues. I thought, "let's hold onto that." They don't make those kinds of accidents. The guys who write Lost are very careful about names. [Laughs] Coming Thursday, in Part 2 of this Q&A: Who is "her"? What could bring Ben and Desmond together for the very first time? And more! |
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Mario Perez / ABC
Matthew Fox and Evangeline Lilly are 1/3 of the Oceanic Six on "Lost."
TV
'Lost' season finale should answer questions
One thing is certain: the ABC series has recaptured viewers.
THE OCEANIC 6 are scattered all over the island, all over Membata, if viewers are to believe this is the name of the place where Oceanic Flight 815
crashed 101 days ago. The very island Locke (Terry O'Quinn) thinks he wants to move. Can move.
Every member of the elusive group of "Lost" castaways, who we already know will leave the island, is in peril. Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sun, Sayid and baby Aaron are all fighting separately to live, struggling to escape. They are nowhere near the helicopter that can fly them to the freighter in the ocean, the vessel that could save them, if there wasn't a bomb on it. But how do they leave? When will they separate from the rest of the survivors? What price will they pay? When the "Lost" two-hour season finale airs Thursday, it will end not just another chapter in ABC's island saga. It also will close a season of ground-breaking storytelling that has carried viewers from present and past narratives, the signature of the show, to the future -- to be colored further with flashbacks of the flash forwards -- that is, glimpses of the future that predate other future events the audience has already seen. This season, the writers filled in the blanks by showing us another snippet of the future that occurred before that moment to let viewers know that "he" is Claire's baby, Aaron. Using the flashback technique to develop character has become so popular across the TV landscape since "Lost" premiered in 2004 that it seems likely that flashing forward in increments to drive plot will follow suit. "Lost" producers have used this device to push the story forward and to answer some of the many island mysteries that fans both love and hate. "It's an interesting development in the story that suddenly we deal with the post-island world, but it's imperfect," said Michael Emerson, who plays Ben Linus, the master-manipulator leader of the Others, whom viewers have seen off the island as well. "It's as imperfect as the island world and the only way it can be inhabited by the Oceanic 6 is by way of the big lie. So it's a compromised world. "And the island may be more important to the survivors when they leave it than when they stood upon it," he continued. "The island of the mind, if you will. But it's a place that has a hold over them. The island never loses its power." Looking forward EVIDENTLY, that's also the case for "Lost" viewers. The flash-forward device has energized many fans who had become disenchanted during last year, as more characters and mysteries were introduced and favorite castaways were sidelined. Averaging 14.6 million viewers, "Lost" ranks ninth among all TV series in the desirable 18- to 49-year-old demographic and has been the top-rated show in both of its time slots all season, despite being on a new night. Viewers have responded favorably to the show's hastened narrative pace, but some have griped that, at times, piecing the timeline has been challenging. "By doing the flash-forwards, we made the audience deeply suspicious and they don't know what to believe when you want them to believe something," executive producer Carlton Cuse said, aware of the Internet chatter among Losties. With only two hours left, the producers have much ground to cover. In the future, fans have seen Jack (Matthew Fox) and Kate (Evangeline Lilly) as a couple raising Aaron without mention of what happened to Claire (Emilie de Ravin). Hurley (Jorge Garcia) winds up in a mental hospital again; Sayid (Naveen Andrews) is working as an assassin for Ben around the globe; and Sun (Yunjin Kim) gives birth and mourns the loss of her husband, Jin (Daniel Dae Kim), even though viewers have not witnessed his death. What fans have yet to see is what happened after last season's time-busting revelation that Jack and Kate leave the island in the future but something makes Jack want to return. On Thursday, "Lost" will take viewers to that very moment of Jack's pained "We have to go back!" and move beyond it. It also will disclose "one of the island's greatest secrets," according to Emerson. "The finale is about the culmination of this idea that a group of people who desperately wanted to get off the island find themselves in the position of defending the island that they've been trying to leave," Cuse said. But producers won't disclose what fans are dying to know. Many viewers, as evidenced on message boards, are convinced that next season post-island life becomes the present and the past is life on the island. "All we can say is that it's going to be very hard to get back to the island for those guys," co-creator and executive producer Damon Lindelof said. "But life will continue for the people who are not with them. How are we going to tell that story? We're not going to tell that." In fact, Lindelof vowed during an interview that after the finale airs he and Cuse "are going into radio silence until next season." But Emerson, talking from the Hawaii set by telephone, has a theory. "Every season, in the telling of 'Lost,' the lens pulls back another notch so that the picture gets bigger, includes more stuff, more people, more places," he said. "So I'll be curious to see what is now included when the lens jumps back another step. I think it will be more fragmented. The geography of the show as we've known it will be upset. Everybody will be in a new place." Kim, who said there "will be casualties," took it one step further: "The finale will change the way you watch the show. It will introduce new variables that would never even be considered previously." When viewers last saw the Oceanic 6, Jack and Sawyer (Josh Holloway) dodged the helicopter that could have rescued them to try to protect Hurley. Hurley was hiding from the freighter folks who want to kill Ben. The Others came down the mountain and captured Kate and Sayid. Sun, Jin and Aaron were onboard the bomb-carrying freighter. "Aw, man, the finale is crazy," Garcia said. "You will definitely see how we all end up together and back on civilization. But it's as if there is one obstacle after another in front of us and the fact that we make it off is definitely a miracle." Choosing survivors JUST HOW did these half a dozen plane crash survivors -- and not their counterparts -- come to be the Oceanic 6? The producers began to make their selections in the second season but did not pick all six until after they had negotiated 2010 as an end date for the series and could plan out the rest of the stories. The first requirement was that they had to be passengers on flight Oceanic 815, which crashed on the island on Sept. 22, 2004, and not any of the other island inhabitants. "Jack has been saying from the word go, 'I'm gonna get everybody off the island.' So we thought, 'What happens if the hero accomplishes his goal but realizes he's made a horrible mistake?' " Lindelof said. "And he would only qualify it a success if Kate were off the island as well. We also knew the baby had to be a part of it. Then we asked ourselves, 'Who are the other people who have something to go back to and what might their lives be like off the island?' " The answer was Sayid, Sun and Hurley, but Lindelof and Cuse won't say exactly why, noting that some of their reasons are based on events in upcoming seasons that even the cast ignores at this point. "Those choices are representations of the dramatic poles of the characters," Cuse said. "Jack is the ultimate empiricist. He's never believed in the mystery and the mythology of the island. He just wants to get the hell off this place whereas Locke has embraced the mysteries of the island. His goal is to understand what the island is about." Nobody was more surprised to learn he was in the exclusive club than Garcia. Often, the emotional center of the show, Hurley, isn't in the middle of the action. "I knew some people were getting off and some weren't and I assumed at the time that it was all going to be people close to the [satellite] phone," Garcia said. "But it turned out to be a bunch of us from all over the place and I thought it was cool because it became a puzzle to unravel as to how we all end up together off the island." The only exception to the only-passengers rule is Aaron, who wasn't on the manifest because he was born on the island. That Kate is his mother off-island is one of the components of the intricate lie the Oceanic 6 weave when they reach civilization. From the beginning, viewers have wondered if Aaron is somehow at the center of the show's mythology. The producers have repeatedly said the island is not purgatory, but whether Aaron (or Locke or Ben or who knows?) is pivotal to a healing island with smoke monsters and electro-magnetic properties remains to be seen. "It could go either way," said De Ravin, who plays Claire, who in the present could be dead or undead, depending on how you look at it. "Seeing as they've already revealed him to be with Kate, there's got to be some other twist there. He's just a little baby, so it's hard to tell if he has some crazy powers. Maybe he can see the future too." The future doesn't look so promising for Jin, whose wife grieved by his grave in Korea. But many fans, taking a cue from his tombstone, which listed the day of the crash as the day he died, don't believe Jin is dead. "I do like the fact that his fate is unresolved and that his life is in jeopardy," Kim said. "Now, believing that he might be dead, I'm getting a lot of people saying, 'Wow, please, don't be dead.' It's a nice sign of appreciation for a character that I haven't necessarily felt in the past." The finale, Cuse said, will have "some spectacular romantic moments along with spectacular action moments." "The story of the Oceanic 6 is the ultimate break-up story," Lindelof added. "That's what the finale is about -- everybody breaking up. And the show is going to have to proceed from here as to whether or not we're going to get everybody together. Who is still around to get together?" |
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That was AWESOME! I'm so fucking excited.
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PagongSchlong |
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Good stuff, CP. Thank you for sharing!
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