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moyanks		#4621	[-]
Posts: 74 (05/10/08 5:59 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	crzypunk2004 wrote: MEN Todd- 4/ 2/ 4/ 3/ 3/ 8/ 5/ 3/ 5/ 4/ 6/ 4/ 9/ TOTAL= 60 Earl- 4/ 4/ 1/ 3/ 5/ 5/ 4/ 4/ 5/ 6/ 3/ 4/ 4/ 7 TOTAL= 59 Yul- 3/ 4/ 2/ 0/ 1/ 5/ 3/ 1/ 2/ 5/ 2/ 2/ 8/ 7/ TOTAL= 47 Aras- 1/ 0/ 2/ 3/ 6/ 3/ 4/ 4/ 3/ 2/ 2/ 3/ 5/ 10/ TOTAL= 48 Tom- 2/ 1/ 5/ 3/ 1/ 2/ 3/ 3/ 5/ 5/ 7/ 8/ 6/ 8 TOTAL= 58 Chris- 4/ 1/ 0/ 2/ 0/ 1/ 3/ 6/ 4/ 6/ 5/ 9/ 17/ 17 TOTAL= 75 Brian-4.2 1/2/4/1/4/3/6/5/5/8/2/4/8 Total:54 Ethan- 3/ 2/ 2/ 5/ 5/ 6/ 0/ 8/ 4/ 8/ 3/ 9/ 10 TOTAL= 65 Richard- 4/4/7/7/4/6/8/6/12/7/7/8/11 Total= 91 WOMEN Danni- 1/ 1/ 1/ 1/ 2/ 0/ 3/ 5/ 1/ 4/ 1/ 7/ 3/ 11 TOTAL= 41 Amber- 1/ 0/ 1/ 1/ 1/ 4/ 3/ 5/ 6/ 2/ 1/ 2/ 1/ 5/ 10 TOTAL= 42 Sandra 9/2/2/2/2/4/3/3/1/1/5/5/6/9 TOTAL - 54 Jenna-4.4 8/2/0/2/8/3/1/3/4/3/3/4/16 Total:57 Vecepia-2.9 2/4/4/3/1/0/0/2/1/1/2/3/15 Total:38 Tina 0/ 5/ 5/ 6/ 2/ 2/ 7/ 3/ 2/ 7/ 5/ 5/ 3/ 15 TOTAL: 67 Ethan 3rd number of confessionals for winners?
RobVanStratus		#4622	[-]
Posts: 6931 (05/10/08 7:32 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	chapera rocks wrote: If Parvati is the winner, she's going to need an enormous amount of airtime in the finale. If you see a huge spike of her commentary, expect her to win. Much like Vee, who had her final episode in where she really boosted her confessional total. Otherwise, Parvati's edit is too bad to win. She's not getting enough airtime. Amber had like 3 times what Parv has right now. Danni and Vee had a better edit thus far. And those two could both be considered boring, whereas Parvati is not, so what gives? That's why I'm calling a Cirie win. But I won't get my hopes up too much, since the only thing she has going for her is the edit, and not post-show interviews etc. Thank you! I've been saying this forever, Parvati and Amanda have had too poor of an edit thus far to be winners. Cirie has had her quiet episodes, but she still is fucking THERE when she is quiet. Parvati and Amanda had quiet episodes and those were when they disappeared from the radar. And you can't claim that Parvati only had little time because her tribe never went to TC, because Tom still got decent airtime when his tribe went to TC only ONCE. And the same for Chris, who post-switch Vanuatu was still there and shown in important scenes even when not voting someone off. And don't forget out friend Amber, who was always in some part of the episodes when Chapera won the IC's. Parvati needed to have focus in the episodes where her tribe didn't go to TC and she didn't. Cirie has had focus on her from the beginning and has never really floated off the radar. Realistically she has the airtime and edit that gives her the victory. My only worry is the $100,000 fan vote prize at the Reunion meaning Cirie falls short again and they want to reward her.
reggierules		#4623	[-]
Posts: 1306 (05/10/08 7:56 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Mark Burnett has shown time and time again that he isn't interested in telling the story of a female survivor that isn't over the top masculine. So I really don't think anyone should be discounted for not being shown enough (except Nat). In a post-ASS world, why anyone is trying to rely on pre-ASS editing techniques is really beyond me. Parvati and Jenna M will be similar winners in their negativity. if Parvati did win, I don't think the editors would paint her positively based on the perception of her pre-FvF gameplay. She would be getting this edit. I dislike the girl too people, but seriously stop arguing the completely obvious.
mtj1282		#4624	[-]
Posts: 1085 (05/10/08 9:00 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	reggierules wrote: Mark Burnett has shown time and time again that he isn't interested in telling the story of a female survivor that isn't over the top masculine. So I really don't think anyone should be discounted for not being shown enough (except Nat). In a post-ASS world, why anyone is trying to rely on pre-ASS editing techniques is really beyond me. Parvati and Jenna M will be similar winners in their negativity. if Parvati did win, I don't think the editors would paint her positively based on the perception of her pre-FvF gameplay. She would be getting this edit. I dislike the girl too people, but seriously stop arguing the completely obvious. Im suprised that after what happened last season with the amanda wins spoiler that people still write comments like these.
reggierules		#4625	[-]
Posts: 1307 (05/10/08 9:13 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Im suprised that after what happened last season with the amanda wins spoiler that people still write comments like these. I never bought into the Amanda spoiler and strongly thought Todd was going to win from about the third episode. As anyone who was paying attention should have.
Jedijake		#4626	[-]
Posts: 5145 (05/10/08 9:19 AM) MESS member Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	but seriously stop arguing the completely obvious And exactly how and why is it so obvious?
The Marquesan Godfather		#4627	[-]
Posts: 10701 (05/10/08 9:31 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	So, no one here thinks Natalie has a shot?
AllMenAreIslands		#4628	[-]
Posts: 23712 (05/10/08 9:41 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	RobVanStratus wrote: Parvati needed to have focus in the episodes where her tribe didn't go to TC and she didn't. Cirie has had focus on her from the beginning and has never really floated off the radar. Realistically she has the airtime and edit that gives her the victory. My only worry is the $100,000 fan vote prize at the Reunion meaning Cirie falls short again and they want to reward her. Actually, Parvati DID receive focus when her tribe didn't go to TC, but given they never went to TC post-swap, her focus was more of the sympathy for Jonathan variety, and being on hand for rewards variety. Cirie has had a ton of confessionals, a ton of airtime, but what connections does she have to the jury as presently formed? Few to none. Her best connections are with the people still in the game, and pretty much have been the whole way through. She's had very little SPV from the people still in the game (whether Jury or active players): the last time she even felt threatened was way back post-swap, when Joel was talking about targeting the weak, and she knew she was in that grouping. Plus, she went on two rewards that involved family (letter from home and husband there to go on reward) and we saw nothing about the family side of things. Instead we heard her (a) talk about Ami flashing her tits and (b) talk about how much she's gotten from the experience blah blah and never going to be afraid again yada yada. Bottom line - it's the respect edit for someone who played magnificently yet did not win. It showed her to be deserving of the win, but she didn't make it to face the jury. That's how I'm reading it. Her edit had been designed to make viewers cheer for her ... and probably to make them vote for her to receive a bonus prize (like $100,000, and/or a car.) eta: Marquesan, Natalie only has a shot if she's the ultimate blindside winner. She's kept hidden to blindside the viewers, in this season of record blindsides. Last Edited By: AllMenAreIslands 05/10/08 9:44 AM. Edited 1 times.
Jim Dandy to the rescue		#4629	[-]
Posts: 196 (05/10/08 9:53 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	What I'm wondering is if there is a final 2, and Natalie is there to face the jury against a favorite, the favorites outnumber the fans on the jury. Will they want to give the game to a fan, and admit a fan outplayed them all? I'm thinking, hurt feelings aside, that they will want to prove that the favorites are far superior to the fans, and will give the win to whichever favorite is left. Ozzy may be pissed at whoever that may be, but is his ego really going to let him admit defeat by a newbie? It's a moot point however, based on the spoilers that say Natalie is gone at F4.
mtj1282		#4630	[-]
Posts: 1087 (05/10/08 10:11 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	reggierules wrote: Im suprised that after what happened last season with the amanda wins spoiler that people still write comments like these. I never bought into the Amanda spoiler and strongly thought Todd was going to win from about the third episode. As anyone who was paying attention should have. yes, but this is a discussion board so its normal for people to discuss who will win especially when there is no solid spoiler saying that parvati (or whomever) definiltey wins! ETA: Todd should have been obvious to people starting in episode one with all the positive gameplay related airtime he recieved. Last Edited By: mtj1282 05/10/08 10:14 AM. Edited 1 times.
Kathy Fan 2		#4631	[-]
Posts: 4635 (05/10/08 10:15 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I'm hanging on to the outside chance that Amanda is gone at the F4. OR, that Amanda doesn't make the "F2" if that spoiler is credible. I refuse to believe she wins after all the OBVIOUS "Amanda is a jury threat" comments. The ONLY time a winner has really won after having something said like that about them was when Shii Ann made her vote for Amber and said she was voting the person who would win the whole game if they weren't taken out. ETA: Oops, forgot about Teresa in Africa talking about Ethan. OK, still...that was one comment. Amanda's name has been brought up several.
mtj1282		#4632	[-]
Posts: 1088 (05/10/08 10:18 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Kathy Fan 2 wrote: I'm hanging on to the outside chance that Amanda is gone at the F4. OR, that Amanda doesn't make the "F2" if that spoiler is credible. I refuse to believe she wins after all the OBVIOUS "Amanda is a jury threat" comments. The ONLY time a winner has really won after having something said like that about them was when Shii Ann made her vote for Amber and said she was voting the person who would win the whole game if they weren't taken out. ETA: Oops, forgot about Teresa in Africa talking about Ethan. OK, still...that was one comment. Amanda's name has been brought up several. Prior to final four and final three tribal we could see doubt put on amanda winning so there will be some suspense. If we dont see amanda with a target on her back or amanda with negative comments being made about her in the first part of the finale than she doesnt win because it would be too obvious.
chapera rocks		#4633	[-]
Posts: 8888 (05/10/08 10:49 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	survivorready wrote: chapera rocks wrote: If Parvati is the winner, she's going to need an enormous amount of airtime in the finale. If you see a huge spike of her commentary, expect her to win. Much like Vee, who had her final episode in where she really boosted her confessional total. Otherwise, Parvati's edit is too bad to win. She's not getting enough airtime. Amber had like 3 times what Parv has right now. Danni and Vee had a better edit thus far. And those two could both be considered boring, whereas Parvati is not, so what gives? That's why I'm calling a Cirie win. But I won't get my hopes up too much, since the only thing she has going for her is the edit, and not post-show interviews etc. Oh my god, U are the dumbest person here, ever! To write here, ever! I mean dont u dare go and compare Parvati to Amber/Danni/Vee!!!! I mean it clearly shows that u r having an emotional breakdown because Parvati played this game HARDCORE. She has made a lot of moves this season. And she has definitely surpassed ur expectation of her being a "flirt". I mean, all u Parvati haters should just get over yourselfs! My advice to you: go get urself checked into a psychologists office and check out ur issues... Are you retarded? Editing wise, Parvati has been quiet, just like Danni/Vee. Btw, I actually like Parvati, and I think all 4 of those girls played a good game. We're talking about editing, and how winners are edited, jackass. Cirie is the winner? <3
survivorready		#4634	[-]
Posts: 231 (05/10/08 12:41 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	chapera rocks wrote: survivorready wrote: chapera rocks wrote: If Parvati is the winner, she's going to need an enormous amount of airtime in the finale. If you see a huge spike of her commentary, expect her to win. Much like Vee, who had her final episode in where she really boosted her confessional total. Otherwise, Parvati's edit is too bad to win. She's not getting enough airtime. Amber had like 3 times what Parv has right now. Danni and Vee had a better edit thus far. And those two could both be considered boring, whereas Parvati is not, so what gives? That's why I'm calling a Cirie win. But I won't get my hopes up too much, since the only thing she has going for her is the edit, and not post-show interviews etc. Oh my god, U are the dumbest person here, ever! To write here, ever! I mean dont u dare go and compare Parvati to Amber/Danni/Vee!!!! I mean it clearly shows that u r having an emotional breakdown because Parvati played this game HARDCORE. She has made a lot of moves this season. And she has definitely surpassed ur expectation of her being a "flirt". I mean, all u Parvati haters should just get over yourselfs! My advice to you: go get urself checked into a psychologists office and check out ur issues... Are you retarded? Editing wise, Parvati has been quiet, just like Danni/Vee. Btw, I actually like Parvati, and I think all 4 of those girls played a good game. We're talking about editing, and how winners are edited, jackass. Cirie is the winner? <3 Yeah u are totally right: Parvati and Danni/Vee have had the same type of edit!! Danni/Vee had the same type of edit Parvati had in the first episode! Danni/Vee had the same type of edit when Parvati made the alliance Amanda/Ozzy/James and with Alexis and Natalie and said that "Everybody else... they are dead to me". Danni/Vee had the same type of edit when Parvati screwed Ozzy/James/Amanda over! Danni/Vee were part of the majority of the alliances in their seasons! You are just full of sh-t! It is just a way for u Parvati haters to come to terms with if she does end up winning!
Jedijake		#4635	[-]
Posts: 5147 (05/10/08 2:13 PM) MESS member Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Parvati haters, yada yada yada...pick on the girl with the bikini oh my God like gag me with a spoon it's so unfair like totally....whatttttevaaa! Take a step back and let's look at a few things objectively for a moment. First, we have: Natalie-absolutely nobody. She came into the game in the final 7. She's a non-issue and it's not even worth discussing. If she wins, they would have to release a director's special edition cut of the season to show us who the hell she is other than a good actress in 2 episodes. Amanda-the most loved person left. People like her, they really really do...well at least we've been told. That's enough to make her into an Ethan if she makes the finals or someone who needs to leave before then. She's no Lill and is actually in the social realm of the game. Cirie-the mastermind behind the biggest moves-Ozzy ouster and Erik's ouster. She has also saved Jason, Eliza, and Erik on occassions. She's played a marvelous strategic game. Parvati-she's played an very good game. However, she is being blamed for the majority of the backstabs while not even being the one who orchestrated them. That's a double-edged sword. She never put them together so she can't take credit. Yet, she did it and will take the brunt of the blame, not credit. Parvati has not played an awful game by any means. She's played a good game and I will certainly give her that. However, she has not done anything to make her stand above the status of either Cirie (master strategist) or Amanda (most popular/ liked). That puts her in harm's way in front of the jury. She's definitely not the least of all evils. Plus, she's not all that well spoken. Only some sort of crazy circumstances, going against either Cirie, Amanda, or both, can give Parvati a win. That crazy circumstance would either be (a) a HORRIBLE jury performance by the others, (b) dillussional drug-induced state of the jury on the voting day, or (c) some sort of crazy tie-vote situation where she lucks out with a fire challenge or some kind. ETA: Parvati played a good game, not just okay. I wanted to emphasize that I do agree she played a good game. Still, her game was not so superior that she stands above Amanda or Cirie in jury votes. Last Edited By: Jedijake 05/10/08 2:18 PM. Edited 1 times.
ZombieLinda		#4636	[-]
Posts: 3773 (05/10/08 2:26 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Yeah, Parvati hasn't had a quiet edit at all. Confessional counts aren't indicative of overall edits and you can't compare confessionals from old seasons to this season. For one, a lot of the story this season has been told through conversations, which is one reason why it's been such good tv. The only one who had an overall quiet edit was Natalie until the last few episodes and Amanda at the VERY beginning. They've all had good edits. Debating over which one had the best winner's edit when any of them could win and have their edit justify it is kinda pointless. I love that the winner is such a MYSTERY
The Marquesan Godfather		#4637	[-]
Posts: 10703 (05/10/08 2:29 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I am very interested in seeing the Sunday afternoon winner picks and if someone actually kept a winner spoiler under raps til the last minute.
Relynn		#4638	[-]
Posts: 581 (05/10/08 2:39 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Jedijake wrote: Only some sort of crazy circumstances, going against either Cirie, Amanda, or both, can give Parvati a win. That crazy circumstance would either be (a) a HORRIBLE jury performance by the others, (b) dillussional drug-induced state of the jury on the voting day, or (c) some sort of crazy tie-vote situation where she lucks out with a fire challenge or some kind. ETA: Parvati played a good game, not just okay. I wanted to emphasize that I do agree she played a good game. Still, her game was not so superior that she stands above Amanda or Cirie in jury votes. Exactly... Parv has played a really good game.. But the thing is too if your going to backstab almost everyone on the jury, you better make darn sure that you have a good goat next to you. Choosing Cirie and Amanda has your Final 3 partners is a dumb, dumb, move. It would be like Richard Hatch deciding to win the Final Immunity challenge, and deciding to take Rudy.
AllMenAreIslands		#4639	[-]
Posts: 23720 (05/10/08 2:53 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	ZombieLinda wrote: For one, a lot of the story this season has been told through conversations, which is one reason why it's been such good tv. EXACTLY! In fact, Cirie's overly high confessional count could be an indicator that she loses. She doesn't have enough "connections to the Jury." They weren't important enough to establish because she doesn't face the Jury. The people we've seen her spend the most time with are the ones who will comprise the F2/F3, because those are the people she must choose from, not because she's getting votes from them. Of course, the alternative could be that this season has been "why/how Parvati loses" in which case connections to the jury might be immaterial. But even in Danni's season, we saw SOME connection between her and some jurors, even though that season WAS the story of how Stepheme lost.
phoenixtobootcamp		#4640	[-]
Posts: 6 (05/10/08 3:09 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	moyanks wrote: crzypunk2004 wrote: MEN Todd- 4/ 2/ 4/ 3/ 3/ 8/ 5/ 3/ 5/ 4/ 6/ 4/ 9/ TOTAL= 60 Earl- 4/ 4/ 1/ 3/ 5/ 5/ 4/ 4/ 5/ 6/ 3/ 4/ 4/ 7 TOTAL= 59 Yul- 3/ 4/ 2/ 0/ 1/ 5/ 3/ 1/ 2/ 5/ 2/ 2/ 8/ 7/ TOTAL= 47 Aras- 1/ 0/ 2/ 3/ 6/ 3/ 4/ 4/ 3/ 2/ 2/ 3/ 5/ 10/ TOTAL= 48 Tom- 2/ 1/ 5/ 3/ 1/ 2/ 3/ 3/ 5/ 5/ 7/ 8/ 6/ 8 TOTAL= 58 Chris- 4/ 1/ 0/ 2/ 0/ 1/ 3/ 6/ 4/ 6/ 5/ 9/ 17/ 17 TOTAL= 75 Brian-4.2 1/2/4/1/4/3/6/5/5/8/2/4/8 Total:54 Ethan- 3/ 2/ 2/ 5/ 5/ 6/ 0/ 8/ 4/ 8/ 3/ 9/ 10 TOTAL= 65 Richard- 4/4/7/7/4/6/8/6/12/7/7/8/11 Total= 91 WOMEN Danni- 1/ 1/ 1/ 1/ 2/ 0/ 3/ 5/ 1/ 4/ 1/ 7/ 3/ 11 TOTAL= 41 Amber- 1/ 0/ 1/ 1/ 1/ 4/ 3/ 5/ 6/ 2/ 1/ 2/ 1/ 5/ 10 TOTAL= 42 Sandra 9/2/2/2/2/4/3/3/1/1/5/5/6/9 TOTAL - 54 Jenna-4.4 8/2/0/2/8/3/1/3/4/3/3/4/16 Total:57 Vecepia-2.9 2/4/4/3/1/0/0/2/1/1/2/3/15 Total:38 Tina 0/ 5/ 5/ 6/ 2/ 2/ 7/ 3/ 2/ 7/ 5/ 5/ 3/ 15 TOTAL: 67 Ethan 3rd number of confessionals for winners? Do you know the confessional count for final 4 this year?

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