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becuzisaidso		#41	[-]
Posts: 12 (05/06/08 11:13 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	urrout wrote: The 2 times a fake idol was tried, Jeff through it in the fire so how can Ozzy get it back? Ozzy stated he hopes to get the real idol back... the one he left hidden in the cave.
urrout		#42	[-]
Posts: 1657 (05/06/08 11:32 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	If Ozzy's old idol is played next TC then Jeff would throw it in the fire so how can Ozzy get it back?
dettigersnw22		#43	[-]
Posts: 59 (05/06/08 11:55 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	realitygal wrote: What if one goes to exile and convinces Erick that the idol is hidden around camp. They plant a fake idol but convince him that every one is different. Then they tell him it is selfish to have both and convince him to give up the necklace. I still dont understand why he'd give up the necklace over a hidden immunity idol. Especially at F5 when whomever has an idol would have to use it in that tribal council anyway, so its not like giving the idol up would come back to hurt Erik later, unless he gives it to one of the girls, and then that girl beats him in the F4 immunity challenge.
Soc7		#44	[-]
Posts: 4419 (05/06/08 12:40 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	One or all the "ladies" shows him their breasts during the IC and he loses concentration and the challenge.
assface killah		#45	[-]
Posts: 3269 (05/06/08 1:14 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	tvfunspotter wrote: In an Ozzy interview he said that the production crew knew where his idol was and took it back and re-hid it, so finding his is not possible, if what he says is true. I think that Amanda somehow guilts Erik into giving her the immunity idol and perhaps someone else has the immunity necklace (Parvati?) - I remember hearing rumors about how Ozzy may have given his idol to Amanda in the end game and he got booted. Could it be this the scenario, but it's Erik, not Ozzy that gives up the idol? One thing that doesn't make sense though is why in the world they would allow Erik to go to Exile - who was in charge of that? They realized soon after sending Jason they got themselves in a bind - I just don't see them being that silly again, unless Erik offers himself up to go to Exile if he wins the reward. I also think all that footage last week of Amanda holding over Erik's head the fact that she 'saved him' might come back to roost this week and maybe Erik lets down his guard and buys into him owing Amanda still? He's an Ozzy FREAK, so he might want to try to redeem himself? ETA: At the auction Jeff made a point of saying that Ozzy's idol was out of play and a new idol was re-hidden. So I honestly can't see how in the world anyone would think they could use a random idol they found in camp? But then again, Erik, not the brightest bulb. Hey n00b... put the bong down for awhile... you have clearly fried way too many brain cells. IF the producers re-hid Ozzy's HII... then it CAN be found. Or what is the fucking point?? Moron.
christy1018		#46	[-]
Posts: 1903 (05/06/08 1:39 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	um I think he meant finding Ozzy's "still hidden in the cave" Immunity Idol. Hence no one can find 'Ozzy's Immunity Idol' and use it at TC. Sure once its re-hid and thus not Ozzy's anymore, it can be found. Juss sayin
rower	Website Clues	#47	[-]
Posts: 1695 (05/06/08 5:20 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	There is one argument that could be used to get Eric to give up the necklace in favor of the HII and it is this: If Eric gives up the IN to someone and makes himself the target, the person making the argument can point out that Eric by having the HII could control who goes home (Just like Amanda and Pavarti did last week). This would be a big incentive to Eric if he believed he could essentially control who was going home. Just a thought.
tvfunspotter		#48	[-]
Posts: 17 (05/06/08 5:48 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	assface killah wrote: tvfunspotter wrote: In an Ozzy interview he said that the production crew knew where his idol was and took it back and re-hid it, so finding his is not possible, if what he says is true. I think that Amanda somehow guilts Erik into giving her the immunity idol and perhaps someone else has the immunity necklace (Parvati?) - I remember hearing rumors about how Ozzy may have given his idol to Amanda in the end game and he got booted. Could it be this the scenario, but it's Erik, not Ozzy that gives up the idol? One thing that doesn't make sense though is why in the world they would allow Erik to go to Exile - who was in charge of that? They realized soon after sending Jason they got themselves in a bind - I just don't see them being that silly again, unless Erik offers himself up to go to Exile if he wins the reward. I also think all that footage last week of Amanda holding over Erik's head the fact that she 'saved him' might come back to roost this week and maybe Erik lets down his guard and buys into him owing Amanda still? He's an Ozzy FREAK, so he might want to try to redeem himself? ETA: At the auction Jeff made a point of saying that Ozzy's idol was out of play and a new idol was re-hidden. So I honestly can't see how in the world anyone would think they could use a random idol they found in camp? But then again, Erik, not the brightest bulb. Hey n00b... put the bong down for awhile... you have clearly fried way too many brain cells. IF the producers re-hid Ozzy's HII... then it CAN be found. Or what is the fucking point?? Moron. The point was obviously you have difficulty with the English language --- Plainly stated for assface killah, who seems to have a difficult time 'getting it' - The producers knew where Ozzy hid the idol in the camp and took it from that location and re-hid it on Exile Island. Nobody can stumble on it in camp because it's not there anymore.
urrout		#49	[-]
Posts: 1662 (05/06/08 5:53 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Except Nat wants Amanda gone (why wouldn't she) and he knows it so he and Nat just vote Amanda and Nat can use the HII to save herself if she wants while he keeps the necklace.
tvfunspotter		#50	[-]
Posts: 18 (05/06/08 5:58 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	IGN TV: So it's still back at camp somewhere? Ozzy: Well, no, the producers knew where it was, they grabbed it. Source: http://tv.ign.com/articles/868/868072p1.html That's where I read that.
z2zcommish		#51	[-]
Posts: 17 (05/06/08 9:20 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	i have a weird feeling that its going to be Natalie blindsided. Erik makes final 4, but thats it/
yosimtesam		#52	[-]
Posts: 25 (05/06/08 10:31 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	tvfunspotter wrote: IGN TV: So it's still back at camp somewhere? Ozzy: Well, no, the producers knew where it was, they grabbed it. Source: http://tv.ign.com/articles/868/868072p1.html That's where I read that. Maybe the producers dropped the idol after they grabbed it and one of the survivors found it... yah thats it... thats what happenned; its so obvious now. We should of figured that out long ago.
assface killah		#53	[-]
Posts: 3278 (05/07/08 12:55 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	tvfunspotter wrote: assface killah wrote: tvfunspotter wrote: In an Ozzy interview he said that the production crew knew where his idol was and took it back and re-hid it, so finding his is not possible, if what he says is true. I think that Amanda somehow guilts Erik into giving her the immunity idol and perhaps someone else has the immunity necklace (Parvati?) - I remember hearing rumors about how Ozzy may have given his idol to Amanda in the end game and he got booted. Could it be this the scenario, but it's Erik, not Ozzy that gives up the idol? One thing that doesn't make sense though is why in the world they would allow Erik to go to Exile - who was in charge of that? They realized soon after sending Jason they got themselves in a bind - I just don't see them being that silly again, unless Erik offers himself up to go to Exile if he wins the reward. I also think all that footage last week of Amanda holding over Erik's head the fact that she 'saved him' might come back to roost this week and maybe Erik lets down his guard and buys into him owing Amanda still? He's an Ozzy FREAK, so he might want to try to redeem himself? ETA: At the auction Jeff made a point of saying that Ozzy's idol was out of play and a new idol was re-hidden. So I honestly can't see how in the world anyone would think they could use a random idol they found in camp? But then again, Erik, not the brightest bulb. Hey n00b... put the bong down for awhile... you have clearly fried way too many brain cells. IF the producers re-hid Ozzy's HII... then it CAN be found. Or what is the fucking point?? Moron. The point was obviously you have difficulty with the English language --- Plainly stated for assface killah, who seems to have a difficult time 'getting it' - The producers knew where Ozzy hid the idol in the camp and took it from that location and re-hid it on Exile Island. Nobody can stumble on it in camp because it's not there anymore. Yeah... you're right moron... because no one ever goes to Exile island... and the producers would re-hide it JUST so no one could find it. Keep contradicting yourself... you look more intelligent by the minute
sunflower101		#54	[-]
Posts: 1239 (05/07/08 1:12 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	troybfreewill wrote: what if someone has a fake hidden immunity idol which erik thinks is real and he agrees to swap his immunity idol for the fake hidden immunity idol. i know right, why the hell would someone do that but in the probst preview natalie says "who would fall for that, like i feel stupid listening to you guys" if erik saw it to be somehow beneficial for him to swap then i dunno, it could happen you never know. Well technically having an immunity idol gives you more power then just regular immunity. You can decide who leaves with the idol, if you play it right like Amanda did. Erik might have been wanting to do the same thing Amanda did. So if he stupidly thought it was a real idol, I could see why he would want it.
sunflower101		#55	[-]
Posts: 1240 (05/07/08 1:19 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	rower wrote: There is one argument that could be used to get Eric to give up the necklace in favor of the HII and it is this: If Eric gives up the IN to someone and makes himself the target, the person making the argument can point out that Eric by having the HII could control who goes home (Just like Amanda and Pavarti did last week). This would be a big incentive to Eric if he believed he could essentially control who was going home. Just a thought. Erik is a big Survivor fan, and he say how the jury reacted to Amanda. He might have wanted to make his own big play with the Idol.
sunflower101		#56	[-]
Posts: 1241 (05/07/08 1:42 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	tvfunspotter wrote: IGN TV: So it's still back at camp somewhere? Ozzy: Well, no, the producers knew where it was, they grabbed it. Source: http://tv.ign.com/articles/868/868072p1.html That's where I read that. Also in this interview Ozzy mentions that Parvati didn't just screw him but also James/Amanda. Of course this is all speculation until there is an actual interview asking some of these questions (Amanda is still in the game), but it doesn't sound that Amanda was too going along with the female's alliance. Amanda wasn't too pleased with Parvati, right after the merge in her confessionals, about Parvati making alliances that didn't included her, without asking. I am curious to know did Amanda go along with alliance, because she was planning on going to the final 3 with Parvati/Cire, but didn't want Ozzy gone yet, or was just going along with Cire for her vote. When James/Ozzy left obviously no matter what Amanda's intentions where before, she would have gone along with the female alliance to stay in the game. James wanted to go to the final 3 no matter what with Amanda (according to his interviews). So would have Amanda turned on James or if he wasn't forced to leave the game, would she have used the idol to keep him in the game longer?
Oowatanite		#57	[-]
Posts: 5176 (05/07/08 1:14 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Reality Dish: Are they going to put the Immunity Idol back on the island? JS: Yeah. It will always go back until there's 5 people left in the game. Then there will be no more immunity idol. ------------------- Hmmmm .....
assface killah		#58	[-]
Posts: 3291 (05/08/08 2:56 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	sunflower101 wrote: tvfunspotter wrote: IGN TV: So it's still back at camp somewhere? Ozzy: Well, no, the producers knew where it was, they grabbed it. Source: http://tv.ign.com/articles/868/868072p1.html That's where I read that. Also in this interview Ozzy mentions that Parvati didn't just screw him but also James/Amanda. Of course this is all speculation until there is an actual interview asking some of these questions (Amanda is still in the game), but it doesn't sound that Amanda was too going along with the female's alliance. Amanda wasn't too pleased with Parvati, right after the merge in her confessionals, about Parvati making alliances that didn't included her, without asking. I am curious to know did Amanda go along with alliance, because she was planning on going to the final 3 with Parvati/Cire, but didn't want Ozzy gone yet, or was just going along with Cire for her vote. When James/Ozzy left obviously no matter what Amanda's intentions where before, she would have gone along with the female alliance to stay in the game. James wanted to go to the final 3 no matter what with Amanda (according to his interviews). So would have Amanda turned on James or if he wasn't forced to leave the game, would she have used the idol to keep him in the game longer? I have actually thought quite a bit about the idea that Amanda DID know that Ozzy was going to be voted out... and just sat back and let it happen. Even Ozzy knew he should have played the HII and didn't.... I am fairly sure that Amanda knew his concerns and thought it was quite probable that he would be booted. Last episode Amanda showed her acting skills... we saw it... then like Alexis... everyone was burned with it. Amanda, Cirie, and Parvati were talking on the raft before the merge about getting rid of the guys... Amanda knew it would happen and with Parvati going and making a co-alliance with Alexis and Natalie... she had to have known that they were aiming for those guys. Amanda essentially stayed true by not voting for Ozzy and getting "upset" when he was voted out.... keeping her close to James. She even got Parvati to apologize to HER and Amanda comes out smelling like roses. Amanda is playing the game harder than MANY are giving her credit for... same as in China... however the difference is that this time... everyone has gotten a glimpse of just how good she is.
sunflower101		#59	[-]
Posts: 1259 (05/08/08 4:38 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	assface killah wrote: I have actually thought quite a bit about the idea that Amanda DID know that Ozzy was going to be voted out... and just sat back and let it happen. Even Ozzy knew he should have played the HII and didn't.... I am fairly sure that Amanda knew his concerns and thought it was quite probable that he would be booted. Last episode Amanda showed her acting skills... we saw it... then like Alexis... everyone was burned with it. Amanda, Cirie, and Parvati were talking on the raft before the merge about getting rid of the guys... Amanda knew it would happen and with Parvati going and making a co-alliance with Alexis and Natalie... she had to have known that they were aiming for those guys. Amanda essentially stayed true by not voting for Ozzy and getting "upset" when he was voted out.... keeping her close to James. She even got Parvati to apologize to HER and Amanda comes out smelling like roses. Amanda is playing the game harder than MANY are giving her credit for... same as in China... however the difference is that this time... everyone has gotten a glimpse of just how good she is. This is all just my opinion of how things have gone down. I don't want anyone to take this as me claiming it as fact. We won't know more until we actually get an interview with Amanda/Cire/Parvati after the finale. I am areally looking forward to these interviews so we can find out about all of this. I tend to think that she played along with Cire/Parvati, because if she refused she could be a target. Of course this is based on her saying she didn't trust Parvati and how upset she was at the merge. When Her/Parvati made a final 3 alliance with Cire, they needed her vote. Remember people do that all time in this game. They needed Cire's 5th vote so Parvati wasn't voted out of the game. That was back when Jonathan was trying to get Parvati out. We didn't see if their was any final 3 deals with Amanda that included James or Ozzy. They might have been left out, because they didn't end up mattering all that much to the end game. It sounds like James/Amanda had one, based on James's interviews. James did ask Amanda to write Parvati's name down with him during Jason's eviction. However, Amanda new the plan to trick him into not using the idol. She wasn't going to not write Jason's name down and risk having James's evicted, if she wanted him to stay int he game. Amanda never wanted the alliance with Alexis/Natalie, remember she wasn't happy about that at the merge. They showed her confessional where she said she didn't trust Parvati and didn't want an alliance with Alexis. She was pretty upset about it. She isn't going to go tell Parvati this is a bad idea have it get back to Alexis/Natalie and then put a target on her back. That isn't smart game play. I think her number one choice for an alliance was always the A/P/J/O alliance. She played along because she didn't want them to target her before the guys. Did she want James/Ozzy gone no, but she wasn't going to out herself to Natalie/Alexis/Parvati. This is just my opinion, I think she thought that Parvati did that to keep Alexis/Natalie from flipping at the merge. She probably thought that Jason/Erik would be targeted first. In I think it was Jason's interviews, he said that James didn't want an alliance with him. She knew that Jason was going before James, and so she figured might as well let Jason be voted out and have his idol taken out. This kept her both in good with the women and James. Jason was also an immunity threat, so why not let him get voted out? It increased the odds that they could win immunity. Before James left, she wanted to go to exile island. Remember this happened before James left. Did she want the idol to help save James or not. That is the question. Obviously, That won't be answered until we can get some answers at the reunion show/interviews. Ozzy said in his interviews that Parvati also betrayed Amanda/James. James said he wanted to go the final 3 with Amanda and either Parvati or Ozzy. So Both James/Ozzy see Amanda as a loyal alliance member. After both Ozzy/James are gone Amanda had to play along to try to stay longer. I think that she considered herself part of the couple's alliance and played along with the women's alliance after that to try to stay longer. She obviously realized once James was gone that she was on the outside of that alliance anyway. She figured that out once Erik won immunity and they where trying to vote her out. Last Edited By: sunflower101 05/08/08 4:40 AM. Edited 1 times.
tvfunspotter		#60	[-]
Posts: 21 (05/08/08 7:33 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I totally agree with your assessment sunflower. Amanda is playing a great game as far as I'm concerned too and I'd love to see her win. There is no way that she knew of the Ozzy blindside though - she told us in a confessional that she mad and 'game on' after they booted Ozzy without telling her. 'What nerve' they had I think was her direct quote. I don't see her making a confessional saying that if she knew of the plan - she'd have no reason to lie about it in a confessional. She also said that she was upset with them, but she wasn't going to show it to them. Since Ozzy's blindside she's been playing the numbers and biding her time - she had to stick with the girls because that's where the numbers were. Staying on that side of the game let her reconnect with Cirie/Parvati to bring her back into the favorites fold and the numbers advantage at 5. Playing a great game doesn't always mean making all the big moves - I think that many on this jury will respect Amanda's play and the fact that she was able to 'outlast' everyone when the chips were down for her. Also, having seen 2 guys go by blindside, while holding the HII then her flipping the HII situation around and blindsiding 1/2 the tribe has to bode well for her chances in front of this jury.

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