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The end result of Roslin's story tonight appears to be that she's actually considering Baltar's preachings to hold some truth and if she believes, there's a good chance Adama will believe. Thats what I got out of it (in terms of the overall plot) anyway

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So three of the Cylons are supposed to be from Earth (which supposedly explains why three of them hear Bob Dylan, but not the fourth)? Are the Cylons actually a half-breed of Colonial toasters and Earth toasters?

The scene where Gina kills the throw-away human and is executed held little value, story-wise. Yeah, we know the Cylons feel. Whatever.

Has the origin of the hybrids been revealed on this show? I don't recall. Their oracle-like qualities suggest that time is a dimension they can freely move through - which might explain Starbuck's loss of time (and confirm she was captured by the Cylons). Hell - maybe Starbuck is a half-breed Cylon herself.

No I think you're misinterpreting what the hybrid said. She said The Missing Three will find the five, who've come from the thirteenth. the missing three is Three aka Deanna, the boxed Cylon. The "who've come from the thirteenth" means the final five came from earth. As far as we know all four of the known final-five heard the music.

Also the Six that killed Barolay wasnt Gina. Gina's dead. She was just a Six. And I disagree completely that the story holds little value. The point of that Six lashing out and then basically accepting her own death was (I think) to emphasize that even though the cylons can resurrect, it doesnt mean they can't be deeply affected by the circumstances surrounding their death. This Six never got over what Barolay did to her and seeing Barolay's inhuman (for lack of a better word) display of non-remorse pushed her over the edge. I think it showed that the humans can and have had as much of a negative emotional impact on the Cylons as the Cylons have had on them. That's hardly a throw-away realization. Add that to the fact that the Six accepted her death willingly (as Gina did) and Natalie was the one to pull the trigger, which shows that the Cylons recognize the finality of death (without a resurrection ship nearby) but sometimes its a merciful option rather than having to live on, suffering from the emotional after effects of what was obviously an extremely traumatizing near death experience. In the case of both Gina and this Six, actual death was a welcome alternative to living on with the emotion after-effects of what was done to them (by humans).

Thats how I saw it anyway.

ETA: As for my theory: Kara witnessed that scene, as did Anders. I suspect that they will both take that with them and it will most likely alter their perception of Cylons. Seeing as its important for both of them (Anders being a Cylon and Kara who will inevitably find out what Anders is, I'm guessing) to be able to see, understand and connect with the humanity in the Cylons, I think this scene could turn out to be a crucial moment for both of them in understanding the Cylon race (and thus, affecting their choices with regards to have to deal with them in the future).

Yeah coconut, I just added in my theory on how I think the effect of the scene will be to Anders and Kara. I also think the way Anders was with that Eight at the end was very telling. I think he's already beginning to understand that humans and Cylons aren't so different and that will hopefully help him not only to better accept what he is but also to realize (and really believe) that being a Cylon doesnt make him any less the Sam Anders than he was. As Kara witnessed the incident with the Six and Eight's death as well, maybe that will help her accept Anders' cyloninity when she inevitably finds out. She did say in the first episode that if she found out Anders was a cylon, she'd kill him. Granted that was all hypothetical but I dont think any of us really doubted what she was saying. Hopefully the things she's seen since then and the alliance with these cylons will help her come to see the humanity in the cylons as well.

And yeah, the alliance with the cylons is awesome.