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Shasta La Vista |
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so Erik finds Ozzy's abandoned idol, also wins indivudal Immunity. Amanda convinces him he owes her, so he gives her the II, he things he's safe with
the hidden idol, and BOOM out he goes cause it was "dead" when Ozzy left
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Kathy Fan 2 |
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It definitely has to do with Erik, whatever 'blunder' is made.
Parvati, Cirie, Amanda & Natalie all seem too intelligent to do anything that would cause them going home in a blindside. The only person stupid enough would be Erik. Can't wait to see what he does, he must give up immunity. |
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chsdz |
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amanda was not all abt her 4 clique. she's smarter than that. in china, she blindsided james who was in her alliance as well, and todd wasn't quite willing to do that. she pushed for it. why would she now, in micronesia, suddenly be much a better friend to james and decide to keep him around though she knows how huge a threat he is. unless you are saying amanda is playing differently and worse in micronesia, i don't see how you can write of all her accomplishments. by all means, give parvati all the credit in the world, but you are clearly being biased against amanda and you know it. amanda wanted to keep james around because she felt like she was on the outs. that is playing the game - knowing and sensing that people want to vote you out and being self aware of ones own position in the tribe. but a part of me believes amanda is just a real cunning hypocritical person, and was acting in front of james. i get that feeling... she's pretending to be very sympathetic because she wants james vote. period. and she's very good at it. sorta like parvati not minding if amanda were voted out but not wanting any part of it.. just so she would secure amanda's vote. amanda would have done the same with james if he weren't evacuated. like i said, prior to ozzy being voted out amanda didn't need to do anything but remain in her alliance. so why expect her to do something. just like how its argued that amanda didn't do this that. blah... it can be argued that you wouldn't know what amanda would have done assuming jason was voted out instead of ozzy, at the next tribal council right? you are faulting amanda for inaction. but my point is, she's reacting to what is happening... true, brought about by parvati and cirie.. but whats wrong with reacting and changing plans accordingly. todd reacted to amanda's suggestion to blindside james in china. might as well argue todd was worthless as well since he didn't think of blindsiding james, the guy with TWO hiis at final 7. but todd still won and i think he deserved it. so it doesn't mean just because you aren't the one who initiates blindsiding the biggest threat, you don't deserve to win, and you do nothing but get dragged through the whole game. |
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Kathy Fan 2 |
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Amanda's such a great player that she was on the outside of the loop for the Ozzy blindside and would herself have been voted out if not for Alexis being
foolish enough to send her to Exile.
Yeah, she's quite amazing. |
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gkline1954 |
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Kathy Fan 2 wrote: "If not for" If not for Johnny Faceplant quitting... If not for Penner getting pulled... If not for Cirie picking the couples... If not for James getting pulled.... If not for Yau Man giving Kathy the first II... If not for whatever bonehead move Erik pulls... Was there ever a winner where they didn't have an "if not for" along the way? |
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SurvivorOutcast |
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survivorready wrote: That would be awesome lol. |
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AmightyRo |
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Amanda and Parvati certaintly don't deserve to win. They wouldn't even be there "if not for":
-Candice turning down FvF -Courtney turning down FvF -Jenn Lyon turning down FvF -Coby turning down FvF -Janu turning down FvF -Stephanie turning down FvF -Michelle turning down FvF -Becky turning down FvF -Cindy turning down FvF -Cirie choosing to stick with them and not Jonathan/Eliza -Yau Man digging his own grave by not standing up for himself -Chet, Jonathan, Kathy and James all being pulled -Alexis hurting her knee -Amanda volunteering to go to Exile -Parvati luring in Natalie and Alexis -Amanda and Cirie and Ozzy deciding to rid Ami and not Erik Like seriously...they totally don't even deserve to be there!!! The end game just fell into their lap practically. WORST WINNERS/FINALIST *EVER*. |
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Kathy Fan 2 |
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gkline1954 wrote: No, of course not. But not all "if's" are created equal. Or as numerous in any given season. How much luck is attributed to your win ALWAYS
varies.
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Kathy Fan 2 |
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All I'm saying is, in a season with:
2 quitters 2 med evacs and 2 dumbasses not using their idols... Amanda still managed to find herself in danger before the final 5. That's NOT good game playing. Nor could she convince Cirie to force a tie. She couldn't save herself, she was LUCKY to be sent to Exile and get the HII just when she needed it. Parvati/Cirie didn't need to. |
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The Marquesan Godfather |
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If Ozzy had used his idol, Jason would have gone, I'm not sure what difference it would have made.
Jason wouldn't have been there next round to not use his. |
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urrout |
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chsdz wrote: If Amanda did not want Ozzy gone so soon, Amanda needed to do something to keep her alliance strong and safe. She was in with the other alliance and had to
have known Ozzy was not safe and that they wanted him gone as soon as possible. Even James seemed to know Ozzy was in trouble. Amanda should have realized it
was the best time to boot Ozzy herself since she picked the right time to boot James.
She let Parvati threaten her alliance and did nothing to stop her so it fell apart earlier than she wanted. Parvati and Cirie made the move to keep their F3
alliance safe and they did not trust her enough to tell her. Parvati and Cirie also created a backup plan by booting Ozzy. It forced Amanda to stick with them
in case she decide to switch to Ozzy and James over them. Amanda had no backup plan in case somebody betrayed her alliance. She allowed herself to be kept out
of the loop and lost an ally.
She has no backup plan to save herself now except immunity if Cirie and Parvati want her gone. What if C/P had planned to switch over to A/N in some form
because they thought they could not beat her at final TC? Maybe they did but Amanda screwed up there plans by finding the idol. All we saw her do was check
with P/C if they were still F3 and she seemed to believe them even though she has seen them lie. We saw her do nothing else. That is not good strategy. That is
just hoping they are still with her.
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Relynn |
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urrout wrote: Please did it ever occur to you that Amanda saved Cirie/ and perhaps even Paravati. Amanda could have easily let it slip that she had the idol. And who do you think Alexis/Natalie were going to want out, one of each other? Or Cirie or Parvati. I wouldn't say Amanda's done thing but what could she do, James wouldn't work with Jason, and Erik doesn't want an alliance with her because shes' a jury threat. Amanda/Natalie don't want to go to the end with her either. However spoilers say that she does make it to the end... (And so what if she wins an immunity or two to make that happen) Lots of great players have lost out because they were unable to win Final 3 immunities. |
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mfrimley |
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Kathy Fan 2 wrote:If we're gonna go down this road, then Parvati's game playing has been even worse, because she found herself in danger on day 1, on a tribe with ten people. She was LUCKY that Danny Bonaduce had assaulted Fairplay a few days before the game started. |
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sunnfllower |
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They're calling for Erik to go home Thurs & only listing Amanda & Parvati as Late Game. They got Cirie as Late Game/Late Jury. If James for some
reason, gets worse & can't make the jury cos he's in the hospital, they'll have to have a F2 at that point & that's when Cirie would
join the jury as the 7th person. James is not at Ponderosa so he must still be in the hosp.
If James stays in (he already has stated he'd "vote for his baby Amanda"), Erik & Ratalie will be Juror 6 & 7 & it will be F3 with Cirie joining A & P. If James stays, Amanda is going to win it. I think Eliza would be the only one to vote Cirie. Parvati would have Alexis & Rat & Amanda definitely will have Ozzy, Jason & James at least & maybe Erik. Erik wasn't close to P or C & I think he would end up voting for A. If he voted for P, there would be a tie of 3 votes each. Wonder what they would do then if they revoted & still a tie. I just think he would vote for Amanda since he's so close to Ozzy & would feel he owed Ozzy a favor for keeping him in the game that one TC. Everybody thinks Cirie will win but if you look at it realistically, she's going to come in last & won't get more than 1 vote. Who knows? Maybe Eliza would even vote for A, a possibility nonetheless. I'd find it great if C got 0 votes & P got 2 & A got 5. That'd be a great end to a great season! |
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urrout |
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The Marquesan Godfather wrote: O/J/E/A vs P/A/C/N or O/J/E vs P/A/C/N/A. Who does Amanda choose? The group she'd have an easier time beating or the ones that didn't betray her.
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sunnfllower |
This info is SO wrong! | ||
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Somebody wrote : Amanda and Parvati certaintly don't deserve to win. They wouldn't even be there "if not for":
-Candice turning down FvF -Courtney turning down FvF -Jenn Lyon turning down FvF -Coby turning down FvF -Janu turning down FvF -Stephanie turning down FvF -Michelle turning down FvF -Becky turning down FvF -Cindy turning down FvF The only people they even ASKED out of all of the above was Courtney. Jenn is battling cancer & they never asked NONE of them other people. |
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GodIsAnAtheist |
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So has everyone finally accepted that Parvati wins?
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Wezzie |
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I'm rooting for running boy!
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Kathy Fan 2 |
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GodIsAnAtheist wrote: No. But I've come to terms with the sad truth that Cirie isn't winning;. I wouldn't be surprised if blindsiding so many people came back to
bite Parvati in the ass. But I also wouldn't be surprised if it didn't.
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Relynn |
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sunnfllower wrote: I totally agree, Amanda/Parvati have creamed the rest of the favorites but Cirie, I'm sorry they more than deserved their place on Fans vs Favorites. |
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