S16 Ep 13 "If It Smells Like a Rat, Give It Cheese"

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jandre62		#21	[-]
Posts: 83 (05/01/08 9:06 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	It's definately Natalie!
LuckyDuck4U		#22	[-]
Posts: 376 (05/02/08 9:54 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I think this is Cirie, talking about Erik. After Amanda outed him as a rat during last night's TC, the four girls will probably convince Erik he is safe when he tries to play what he thinks are two separate alliances against each other, only to have the four girls unite and pull yet another blindside at TC.
hagiz1		#23	[-]
Posts: 130 (05/02/08 6:19 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	this is cirie talking about Erik to Parvati in front of the cave.
parvati lover	cirie about Parv (telling amanda)	#24	[-]
Posts: 87 (05/02/08 9:48 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	imo
SurvivorFanGP		#25	[-]
Posts: 7604 (05/02/08 10:50 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	If they're a backstabber, give them bait, basically. Sounds like a quote about Parvati or possibly Erik for being a free agent. One of the other three says it.
Spanky Hot Dog		#26	[-]
Posts: 3 (05/03/08 12:06 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Is there any chance at all that Erik doesnt get eliminated in the next episode? I like Erik and I want him to outlast at least one more member of The Fiendish Feminine Forces of Evil.
JHTMS		#27	[-]
Posts: 14 (05/03/08 2:38 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Spanky Hot Dog wrote: Is there any chance at all that Erik doesnt get eliminated in the next episode? I like Erik and I want him to outlast at least one more member of The Fiendish Feminine Forces of Evil. Good news and bad news... Theres always a chance. I would like Erik to win. Here is a excerpt from Buddy tv's Alexis interview: What can we expect from you guys at that final tribal council? Do you keep it together? Do you get a little sassy with the final contestants? What happens? Alexis: I get a little… I ask some tough questions. I mean, at the end of the day, you're giving someone a million dollars. It's a lot of money and for me, I think it's a big responsibility of who I'd want to give that too. I think I apologized at the beginning, said, "Hey ladies, I'm sorry but understand, with these questions, I'm not trying to be a jerk but I really am looking for something deeper than I'm just giving you a million bucks because I like you." , said, "Hey ladies, I'm sorry but understand, with these questions, I'm not trying to be a jerk but I really am looking for something deeper than I'm just giving you a million bucks because I like you." That could very well indicate, that Erik won't be there for much longer. But theres still a chance.
crocophile		#28	[-]
Posts: 9879 (05/03/08 4:57 AM) MESS Moderator Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I'd agree the title is Natalie. She is the one who POed at Erik for playing both sides. Erik has pretty much gone full cycle. He was a jerk for dumping Amanda on her head. Then he became the wide-eyed innocent / Ozzy groupie. Last week he tried to play the game by stabbing Amanda. Now IMO he's ready for the final plunge. Being sucked from a 'sure thing' into an iffy alliance could easily be his final undoing, and yet another blindside. The pic that goes with the CBS blurb shows multicolored lanes, with what appear to be puzzle tables. If that's IC I don't like Erik's chances Good catch on the "ladies" comment by Alexis
Ozzmanda Fan234		#29	[-]
Posts: 166 (05/03/08 6:40 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	JHTMS wrote: Spanky Hot Dog wrote: Is there any chance at all that Erik doesnt get eliminated in the next episode? I like Erik and I want him to outlast at least one more member of The Fiendish Feminine Forces of Evil. Good news and bad news... Theres always a chance. I would like Erik to win. Here is a excerpt from Buddy tv's Alexis interview: What can we expect from you guys at that final tribal council? Do you keep it together? Do you get a little sassy with the final contestants? What happens? Alexis: I get a little… I ask some tough questions. I mean, at the end of the day, you're giving someone a million dollars. It's a lot of money and for me, I think it's a big responsibility of who I'd want to give that too. I think I apologized at the beginning, said, "Hey ladies, I'm sorry but understand, with these questions, I'm not trying to be a jerk but I really am looking for something deeper than I'm just giving you a million bucks because I like you." , said, "Hey ladies, I'm sorry but understand, with these questions, I'm not trying to be a jerk but I really am looking for something deeper than I'm just giving you a million bucks because I like you." That could very well indicate, that Erik won't be there for much longer. But theres still a chance. Thanks JHTMS for the interview. Then that means that F3 are ladies. I am thinking that the F3 are Parvati, Amanda, and Cirie.
birdlady		#30	[-]
Posts: 1238 (05/03/08 8:05 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Well, it means however many people face the jury are ladies...
JHTMS		#31	[-]
Posts: 15 (05/03/08 8:20 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Ozzmanda Fan234 wrote: JHTMS wrote: Spanky Hot Dog wrote: Is there any chance at all that Erik doesnt get eliminated in the next episode? I like Erik and I want him to outlast at least one more member of The Fiendish Feminine Forces of Evil. Good news and bad news... Theres always a chance. I would like Erik to win. Here is a excerpt from Buddy tv's Alexis interview: What can we expect from you guys at that final tribal council? Do you keep it together? Do you get a little sassy with the final contestants? What happens? Alexis: I get a little… I ask some tough questions. I mean, at the end of the day, you're giving someone a million dollars. It's a lot of money and for me, I think it's a big responsibility of who I'd want to give that too. I think I apologized at the beginning, said, "Hey ladies, I'm sorry but understand, with these questions, I'm not trying to be a jerk but I really am looking for something deeper than I'm just giving you a million bucks because I like you." , said, "Hey ladies, I'm sorry but understand, with these questions, I'm not trying to be a jerk but I really am looking for something deeper than I'm just giving you a million bucks because I like you." That could very well indicate, that Erik won't be there for much longer. But theres still a chance. Thanks JHTMS for the interview. Then that means that F3 are ladies. I am thinking that the F3 are Parvati, Amanda, and Cirie. I'm also thinking Cirie, Amanda and Parvati are the F3. If there is a F2, then (According to the interview.) the best place that Erik could finish is third. Edit: Erik could still be in the finale, because it is too obvious, that he'll get booted next. TV Guide: "You haven't seen the end of the dumb moves at tribal council," teases Jeff Probst. "(Tonights) episode is one were you go, 'You've got to be kidding me... This just didn't happen... how could this happen 16 seasons in?' It's set up too obviously. And in the preview Erik says that every single girl is trying to talk him to different plan. He says: (To Cirie) "I think you, me and Parv to the end." Natalie is behind the shelter, and hears. This probably the "stab to the front". Prior to this Erik promised to Natalie, that "me and you to the end". Erik's boot is far too obvious. And Natalie's also. Maybe it's a huge blindside, and something really unexpectable happens? In the preview Cirie says to Parvati: "If we make him feel comfortable, he'll do the right thing.", what might be "the right thing"? Maybe they want Amanda gone? If Erik gets booted, it won't be a blindside, he knows he is the target. If the idol has been rehidden, then not playing the idol would be a dumb move (Idol is good to F5, so next tribal council is the last time to play it.) Forgetting the idol is not a "dumb move a "dumb move at tribal council". So mishandling the idol won't probably be the case. I'm making some picks: F5: Natalie F4: Amanda F3: Erik F2: Parvati and Cirie ("Don't miss as the twists and turns keep on coming in one of the most talked about seasons yet!") Last Edited By: JHTMS 05/03/08 8:58 AM. Edited 1 times.
checkinguy		#32	[-]
Posts: 35 (05/03/08 8:40 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I'm thinking that Eric is a bit weasly lately. ('Rat'ing on Ami for her alliance moves, not even being sorry to Amanda for not supporting her. Before, dumping a bag on Eliza's head during a challenge). I think Nat is calling Eric for his poor steadfastness. It sounds like she makes a pact, and then overhears Eric making another pact with Amanda/Cirie? Of course the game requires it, but some remorse or even holding to alliances would be good. If he had sided with Amanda, Cirie wouldn't have been between 'a rock and a hard place' when Amanda asked her. I'm all for Nat to call him out and deliver the coup d'gras at Tribal. This is somewhat spec. More promo's will appear that will shed light on next episode of course.
Kathy Fan 2		#33	[-]
Posts: 4598 (05/03/08 8:45 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	That makes sense. Erik makes a pact with Natalie, then renegs on it and makes another pact with Amanda/Cirie. I can see Nat calling him a rat for this. She was certainly...colorful...in her confessionals.
JHTMS		#34	[-]
Posts: 16 (05/03/08 9:02 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Kathy Fan 2 wrote: That makes sense. Erik makes a pact with Natalie, then renegs on it and makes another pact with Amanda/Cirie. I can see Nat calling him a rat for this. She was certainly...colorful...in her confessionals. I'm also thinking Cirie, Amanda and Parvati are the F3. If there is a F2, then (According to the interview.) the best place that Erik could finish is third. Edit: Erik could still be in the finale, because it is too obvious, that he'll get booted next. TV Guide: "You haven't seen the end of the dumb moves at tribal council," teases Jeff Probst. "(Tonights) episode is one were you go, 'You've got to be kidding me... This just didn't happen... how could this happen 16 seasons in?' It's set up too obviously. And in the preview Erik says that every single girl is trying to talk him to different plan. He says: (To Cirie) "I think you, me and Parv to the end." Natalie is behind the shelter, and hears. This probably the "stab to the front". Prior to this Erik promised to Natalie, that "me and you to the end". Erik's boot is far too obvious. And Natalie's also. Maybe it's a huge blindside, and something really unexpectable happens? In the preview Cirie says to Parvati: "If we make him feel comfortable, he'll do the right thing.", what might be "the right thing"? Maybe they want Amanda gone? If Erik gets booted, it won't be a blindside, he knows he is the target. If the idol has been rehidden, then not playing the idol would be a dumb move (Idol is good to F5, so next tribal council is the last time to play it.) Forgetting the idol is not a "dumb move a "dumb move at tribal council". So mishandling the idol won't probably be the case. I'm making some picks: F5: Natalie F4: Amanda F3: Erik F2: Parvati and Cirie ("Don't miss as the twists and turns keep on coming in one of the most talked about seasons yet!") (Sort of double post, but when I started editing the last post, it was the most recent post in this thread, and when I stopped editing it, there where 2 newer posts.)
dettigersnw22		#35	[-]
Posts: 54 (05/05/08 8:36 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Is it possible that someone else wins immunity (either Parvati, Natalie, or Cirie (which would be the big shock of the episode), and Amanda convinces that person to give up immunity to her because she's worried about being taken out by Erik + the 2 others, and then Amanda turns around and boots whomever gives her immunity? It would make sense if Amanda is legitimately worried about her spot in the game, and it would make sense for Erik to then be the swing vote because Parvati and Amanda are working together, and its clear that Cirie and Natalie consider Amanda a big threat (as does Erik). So I'm thinking another option could be Parvati giving immunity to Amanda under the assumption that all 4 girls are voting out Erik (especially if Erik gets caught wheeling and dealing by Natalie), but then Cirie, Erik and Natalie take out Parvati. I just dont want to see Erik go next because they've made him pretty likable, and it'd suck to see him go out next, and do something really stupid in the process. The other two people who have made big blunders (Jason and Ozzy) got fairly negative and arrogant/overconfident edits...so even though the boots were surprising and the mistakes were big, we the viewers werent built up all season to root for either of them that much. They've shown Erik to be quite a bit more likable and easier to relate to than most of the other men, so why build us up with that (especially since Erik has played a pretty decent strategic and challenge-based game up to this point) only to knock it all down and have him turn out to be a fool? It'd be disappointing, and it would leave a pretty unlikable final 4. Amanda is likable, but kind of whiny; Parvati has been a backstabber and a skank; Natalie has been invisible; and Cirie is never shown doing anything except sitting/standing around and talking. They havent given us a real general reason to root for any of those 3, so the F4 setup would be a dud without Erik, regardless of if Amanda makes the final 3 and wins, or gets booted at F4. Just because there's another dumb move made, it doesnt mean Erik necessarily does it even though he's the most likely target to go home next.
DGVision1		#36	[-]
Posts: 9 (05/05/08 8:43 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	The recently released DirecTV listing for the finale names only Ciere, Amanda and Parvati. Eric is conspicuous in his absence. Add that to the Alexis interview comment, "ladies," and you can begin building a circumstantial case, if that is your desire. Or, you could cozy up to Oliver Stone and choose to think that Burnett would waste time contriving such a deception. Personally, I think they would have preferred, from a PR perspective, to keep the "fans vs. favorites" theme alive until the bitter end.
Trixiego		#37	[-]
Posts: 14338 (05/05/08 1:43 PM) Kiss me, I'm Adminish Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Jeff says the idol comes into play again in a completely different way - something that has never happened before (interesting they show the actual II though with Erik sitting in the background) Nat heard saying Who would fall for that I feel stupid listening to you guys right now (Parvati next to her and I think Cirie across from her) and first James had title of biggest blunder then he gave it to Ozzy who gave it to Jason and in Jeff's position Jason got it take from him to give it to someone else this week - it is incredible what continues to happen at TC Last Edited By: Trixiego 05/05/08 1:52 PM. Edited 1 times.
sunnfllower	Don't see how there can be a F3	#38	[-]
Posts: 87 (05/05/08 3:26 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	There's only 5 people left with 2 leaving last week. This Thurs. 5/8 there will be 4 left when the finale opens on Sun. 5/11. Last 2 times the finale opened with F5. Does this mean there will only be a F2?
kenc333		#39	[-]
Posts: 1545 (05/05/08 3:33 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	sunnfllower wrote: There's only 5 people left with 2 leaving last week. This Thurs. 5/8 there will be 4 left when the finale opens on Sun. 5/11. Last 2 times the finale opened with F5. Does this mean there will only be a F2? China opened with a F4 and had a F3 at the final tribal council... One reward, one immunity, one boot, FTC.
AndreSurvivor		#40	[-]
Posts: 153 (05/05/08 3:48 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Trixiego wrote: Jeff says the idol comes into play again in a completely different way - something that has never happened before (interesting they show the actual II though with Erik sitting in the background) Nat heard saying Who would fall for that I feel stupid listening to you guys right now (Parvati next to her and I think Cirie across from her) and first James had title of biggest blunder then he gave it to Ozzy who gave it to Jason and in Jeff's position Jason got it take from him to give it to someone else this week - it is incredible what continues to happen at TC Sounding more and more like Erik will in fact be making the move. Dang it... the men post-merge are such huge morons if that's the case. The most consistent bunch of dimwits I have ever seen... if they didn't manage to misuse the idol somehow this go around, they did it on their previous season.

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