She has to give one hell of a jury performance because I only see her getting Alexis & Natalie's votes.
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I have to agree with you SurvivorFan, I just don't see how Parvati is gonna pull off the win here. This isn't even remotely like Todd last season
because Todd did NOT have this much animosity towards him on the jury.
She has to give one hell of a jury performance because I only see her getting Alexis & Natalie's votes. |
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Parv may not win based on the anger quotient.
If Amanda goes to F2 and wins, she is the defacto greatest survivor (as F2 and winner). Longest time on survivor (as was pointed out earlier). Has she yet received a *Single vote in either season at tribal?? |
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Yes, I think Amanda nows holds the record for Survivor that has gone the longest without ever receiving a vote against her, when counting last season and this
season.
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If Amanda goes to F2 and wins, she is the defacto greatest survivor (as F2 and winner).Um, no. She would just be the de facto most boring Survivor ever. And Amber already cornered the market on winning against a bitter jury. Amanda's "strategy" isn't even original. The fact that if she does win (which I doubt), and they couldn't even edit a decent storyline for her (for the second season in a row), instead choosing to make the season all about Parvati, speaks volumes about Amanda. Amanda pulling a choke job of epic proportions last season automatically eliminates her from any discussion of "best Survivors ever". The best players don't throw away a million dollars at final tribal council by giving the worst jury performance ever.
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hagiz1 |
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Amanda is the kind of person who usually stand back in the corner but when she need it, she can strike immediately.
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Some stuff from Jason's interview on the Joann/Stacy podcast:
- Like Eliza he really couldn't connect with the LA girls (Parvati and Natalie) because they were usually talking about stuff that went on in LA etc. - He says an alliance with James would NEVER have happened. He said that James didn't like him and didn't want to be in an alliance w/him no matter what. He says that Erik was basically Ozzy's lap dog and didn't do anything on his own. - He totally regrets telling Natalie that he had the idol but instead said he should have told Alexis because he thought she would have been much more likely to help him. - He was definitely considering playing the idol through Tribal Council. - He says its pretty much game over for the fans and that Nat/Alexis/Erik/Him should never have let it become anything but Fans v Favorites since they could have voted out all the favos at that point and that the fav girls did a good job of convincing Natalie that they were apart of their group. Also he thought it was obviously very stupid and annoying that Joel got rid of Mary and Mikey since they really were into it and wanted to play whereas Kathy and Chet didn't want to or didn't care. - Amanda/Parv/Cirie are a very tight group. - Also he wasn't bothered by his editing or by playing the fake idol. It was great TV so he was happy with it. |
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This season, the editor chose to feature Parvati more coz I think they're trying to justify why Amanda can win in the end (because Parvati was hated) just like how they edit Danni.That's my whole point. When you finish 3rd place one season, and (for the sake of argument) win the next season, and in neither of those seasons are you memorable enough to have the story be about YOU, that says something. I'll give Amanda some credit if she makes it to final 3 again, but it's much easier for a quiet, non-controversial player like Amanda to make it far every time than someone like Cirie or Parvati who has a strong personality. Like I said in another thread, anything other than a Parvati or Cirie win would be a joke. Survivor needs a strong, aggressive, intelligent, strategic mastermind woman to win the game for once. Otherwise it becomes pathetic that the only way a woman can win Survivor is by being quiet and staying in the background. |
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It's a Cirie win. That's one retired nurse now. Otherwise, why show her early powerplays? Amanda's been shown some and Parvarti of course, but
not Alexis. Nat has only been shown this week as manipulative and calculating but in a mean way.
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hagiz1 wrote: Nope. That's Big Tom (37 in Africa + 36 in ASS = 73)
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ProbstFan123 |
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You play to win. Not to see who can spend the most days on the show.
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I have to agree with you SurvivorFan, I just don't see how Parvati is gonna pull off the win here.If it's a final 2 with her against Amanda, and James isn't on the jury, she wins like this: Cirie - Parvat (will probably see Parvati as more deserving) Catalie - Parvati (close bond with Parvati) Alexis - Parvati (close bond with Parvati) Erik - Amanda (probably bonded with Amanda while they on the same tribe) Jason - Parvati (will probably see Parvati as more deserving, said he'll vote for the person who ousted Ozzy?) Ozzy - Amanda (relationship with Amanda and pissed at Parvati) Eliza - Parvati (dislikes Parvati, but sees Amanda as undeserving) Parvati wins 5-2. |
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I hope Eric, Cirie and Amanda band together, and I think they do...
Sunsawed just went on an "Eric Wins!" tear at the Mess Hall. Interesting reading... Cirie had a very low key episode this time, but don't forget it was SHE who orchestrated Jason's boot, too. SHE told them all FIRST he had to go and the Insider backs this up. This episode(and the Insider)back up Cirie's distaste for these people she's stuck with...She did, however, apologize to Amanda...And why do I keep thinking Cirie goes BACK to Exile Island this time and finds the HII? Whoever does, whether it's her or Amanda, they will immediately become targets...Or will everyone become scared of her? Cirie, Amanda and Eric, the nuMalakal tribe may end up sticking together...I hope...Especially if Amanda or Cirie has the idol...I think going to EI means missing out on the family reward, but GETTING the HII...Would practical Cirie make that decision? Thanks to JB for typing ALLLLL this up! |
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ProbstFan123 wrote: Smart players know when to stay in the background and when to make moves....Amanda made some moves in China, she took out James for example. I think that
if she really thought it was in her best interests she would have taken out Todd. (I don't think she kept Todd around for emotional reasons). To say that
Amanda isn't a strategic player isn't correct or fair. And people who have played with her would disagree..
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What I mean by this is Amanda is being edited as completely seperate from the woman's alliance, and we were all suppose to feel sorry for the girl.. Oh her boyfriend is flirting with Alexis, Oh her boyfriend was voted out, Oh her friends lied to her, can she trust him. Oh, she's on the outside of the girls. Some editors said that there is actually "hero's music playing when Amanda's on."Then why show her making out with Ozzy with rats scurrying around them in the dark, and Jonathan telling them to "get a room"? That's not very heroic. To say that Amanda isn't a strategic player isn't correct or fair. And people who have played with her would disagree..I don't know about strategy, but nearly every comment I've read about Amanda from other players has been negative. Even Todd and the other China contestants didn't really have anything good to say about her after the reunion show. She seems very cliquish. I guess that's part and parcel of being a beauty pageant contestant. It's also probably why she doesn't make friends outside of her own little group (and loses jury votes as a result).
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Probst, the China contestants Todd and Pei Gee are saying good things about Amanda know, they are impressed with how far Amanda is getting. And another poster
who seems to know Todd is defending an Amanda win, talking about how Amanda is a strategic player. As mentioned earlier all they really have to do to defend
her win is to have Amanda mention (and you know she will) on the Finale show that she will be the only Contestant to make the Finals Twice. Cirie didn't
make the finals in her first season, and Pavarti didn't even come close to the Finals. I do worry if it's being set up that Amanda's relationship
with Ozzy costs her in the end, but who knows. But pictures of Pavarti and James were also in there with the rats. And it could have just been that it's
stupid for the couples not to be broken up. But one negative image doesn't make her negative throughout.
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Relynn wrote: You are forgetting Joel and even Jason. All key boots that helped Cirie's game. There is no way you can call Cirie a follower. Why would you make moves
when you don't have to or too soon? Amanda isn't the one taking out the bigger threats. Cirie is clearing the way and not getting the full
repercussions of it, Parvati is. Amanda just looks like a follower and if she goes on a immunity run it is because Cirie and Parvati cleared the way for her.
Cirie is playing the same as last time only the EI isn't hurting her this time.
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Cirie was never sent to EI in her season.
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hagiz1 wrote:I meant Terry having the EI . Relynn wrote: She may have wanted Joel gone but did nothing to cause it. And she probably didn't want him gone so soon because he would help in the challenges. Cirie
needed Chet to stay to provide a weaker target than herself. Joel was targeting Cirie not Amanda. It doesn't matter what the show implied about Jason's
boot, Cirie was a big part of it and Amanda did nothing except tell James about the plan which could have caused James boot if he slipped to Jason. Did she
want James to do something about it but failed? If Cirie wanted James to flip the target, she probably would have succeeded. I don't remember Amanda doing
anything last time except the James surprise boot and Todd or the poker player? had thought of it earlier so maybe they gave her the idea.
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