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Posts: 3281 (04/20/08 10:17 AM) Registered User |
we have not been shown the women make an official F5 alliance though, the VO has hinted at it but never officially says the women have alligned.
I thought Jason was going last ep because the previews showed Cirie targeting Ozzy, so I thought for sure he would be safe. |
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 shoeless rye |
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Posts: 4879 (04/20/08 10:29 AM) Registered user |
Parvati really has to work on Amanda to smooth things over because she knows Parvati's double dealing secrets. If she went to Cirie with the fact that
Parvati has an alliance with Alexis and Natalie, that could make Cirie side with Amanda, James and Erik - but only after she stuck with Parv and co to boot
Jason, otherwise it would be a 4-4 tie. Not that I believe that will happen.
I believe F5 will be Cirie/Amanda vs Alexis/Natalie and which way will Parvati go. There will be no discussion of either of the twosomes flipping and deciding to vote out Parvati because Alexis/Natalie know their only chance is going to the finals with Parvati. Parv will have to decide if she wants to make the "Faves should vote for faves" argument and that she played the better game vs two players who were just hangers on. I'm probably late to this discussion, but shouldn't Jason have realized something was up when Parvati wouldn't step down to give the tribemates the food considering she was safely in the majority alliance? And shouldn't that have raised alarm bells to the rest of the tribe that Parvati couldn't step down because she has other deals that would blow up in her face otherwise? |
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birdlady |
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Posts: 1172 (04/20/08 10:58 AM) Registered user |
Yeah, that was a BIG gap in the story. But what we weren't shown could have been something non-strategic, like Erik was wobbling all over like he was going
to collapse, and Parvati was standing there smiling and chatting. Or maybe Natalie just floated the idea out there to be silly, and then all of a sudden Erik
looked up like he was seriously interested. I was hoping one of Ozzy's interviewers would ask about that. (I still can't believe grown adults were
sitting there with their fingers crossed. Are they planning to stand in front of the jury and say "I know I promised, but I had my fingers crossed.")
It's possible we aren't being shown just how motivational Alexis can be. Perhaps she is very charismatic and convincing around campI thought at the beginning of the game we were seeing this, like when she was so excited about the coral rugby challenge, or about how the Fans were focused on the challenges, not on camp. I was feeling like she really was one of those scary upbeat permanent balls of energy people. But I haven't seen that lately. Either the editors are pretty subtle, or she has gotten wiped out by the physical conditions. (Although vry motivated mean face at Probst after she pulled her bucket over last episode.) I don't think Jason would be good to take to the finals, unless somehow you got him to promise not to win any more challenges. If somehow the vote were right now, he would be a good opponent because no one likes him. But if he hangs around and runs off a few more immunities, he has a really strong jury argument, whether they like him or not: I'm out here for the first time, at one point at had no allies but I kept going, I put myself out so the whole tribe could eat, I won x immunities, and yeah, esteemed juror Ozzy tricked me with the idol, but, I was only on exile once and I successfully followed the clues, and I was willing to make the bold strategic move. Not to mention if he has no friends or allies, he has no one to feel backstabbed. |
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Posts: 32 (04/20/08 11:57 AM) |
My prediction is that, if the girl alliance plan comes true and they eliminate the guys one-by-one, then the final five will be Parvati/Amanda vs.
Natalie/Alexis with Cirie as the swing vote.
I can't see Parvati voting against her "best friend" Amanda, especially after she voted out Ozzy and perhaps James (that is, if he isn't taken out of the game due to an injury like the rumors say). Parvati could decide that if she stays true to Amanda, then maybe she'll have a chance of winning back Ozzy or something. Cirie would side with them, at least for now, to get rid of Natalie (bigger Immunity threat than Alexis) at the Final Five. At the Final Four, Alexis could win the final Immunity, leaving Parvati and Cirie without any other option but to vote out Amanda (she would win if she was in the Final Three). Then, at the Final Three Immunity Challenge (if there is a Final Two like rumors indicate) Cirie or Parvati could win it, and take the other one with them (Alexis is a jury threat). |
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Relynn |
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Posts: 233 (04/20/08 12:26 PM) Registered user |
MMan9000 wrote: This makes sense, but Cirie is probably the most popular player there. Ozzy in an interview said that he wouldn't want to face Cirie in the Finals because Cirie would have a shot at beating him, because Cirie is a liked person. (Even he wasn't angry with Cirie at all) If I'm Pavarti I don't want to be in the Finals with Cirie. Honestly, I think they haven't been really setting Cirie up for the end game. Yes we saw her make a final 3 deal, BUT we also saw Pavarti make an alliance that didn't include Cirie, and Amanda tell Ozzy not to tell Cirie about the Idol. I think Cirie feels comfortable with Pavarti/Amanda, and well get screwed over. I also think the fact that Alexis/Pavarti are not My Space friends with Cirie, says something. |
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Posts: 643 (04/20/08 12:42 PM) Registered user |
You can't really go by the my space friends. Eliza is friends with Jason, Alexis and Natalie. Does that mean that they are all on the jury with her? You
can spin it to look anyway that you want to. Cirie is friends with Eliza, Erik and Natalie. It was a huge indication that Todd won last season when almost
the entire cast was one of his friends.
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Posts: 644 (04/20/08 1:05 PM) Registered user |
One thing that stands out with Parvati's edit is all of the quotes about winning. Todd gave a lot of them, but he was also very visible. Would the editors show this two times in a row? Maybe. It could also be edited in to show so that the viewers see how Parvati has changed her game, but did not come through/blew it at the end. Parvati constantly reminds us that she is here to win this time and that she doesn't want to go to the final 5 with people like Ozzy and James. But that is exactly what Danielle from S12 kept saying. She was always saying that she did not come here to come in second or third and that she is here to win. She was always shown having to decide what side to choose (voting out Courtney and choosing Aras over Terry). I just feel that Parvati is getting the same treatment as Danielle. |
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Posts: 7155 (04/20/08 1:11 PM) Registered user |
Strategically, the reason that I no longer see the all female final 5 happening is that Cirie is too much of an extraordinary player. She will realize that if she doesn't do something to break up Parvati's California Girls clique, she will end up finishing 4th or 5thThis is definitely probably the key reason that an all-girl F5 didn't make all that much sense to me, because it would put Cirie into a bad position and we all know her game is anything but that. As far as alliances being shoved down our throats, meaning they won't happen, the Amanda/Cirie/Parvati scene on the raft on episode 3 was mentioned and we haven't heard about it since. It wouldn't be a surprise, but I think that's the obvious final 3, with Cirie winning. And if it IS a final 2, i'm starting to think Cirie has to be there, and wins, since I can't fathom how Parvati would beat Amanda, and Cirie would crush both in a vote. |
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Firebolt102890 |
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Posts: 2 (04/20/08 1:11 PM) |
Why hasn't 'Fever updated their boot sheet? It hasn't been updated since after Ami got voted out.
Sorry if this has been discussed already, but I didn't feel like going back 50 pages to find out why. |
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Oowatanite |
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Posts: 5084 (04/20/08 1:30 PM) Registered User |
TDB S18 Winner wrote: It just means that Eliza spent a lot of time on New Airai with them. I think that the F3 will include Parvati and Alexis, with either Amanda or Natalie. If Amanda is in the F3, I don't see how she doesn't win, with votes from Ozzy, James, Cirie and Erik. But I don't think that Amanda wins. So the F3 is Parvati, Alexis and Natalie, IMHO. Cirie doesn't get to F3 without a string of IC wins. Her fans can hope all they want that she finds the HII but that's all it is - hope. If Parvati can betray Ozzy this soon, then she will have no problem cutting Cirie loose. And I don't think that Alexis or Natalie want Cirie anywhere near F3. Heck, even Amanda might be wary of keeping Cirie, given that she kept Todd, only to be blown away in the FTC. So why have Natalie and, to some extent, Alexis received such low-key edits SO FAR ? Well, first of all, the Faves were gonna dominate the editing over the fans no matter what. Everyone should have realized that before the season even started. Secondly, we had Krazy Kathy and Bully Joel and Pathetic Chet being early casualties whose story had to be told in the first several episodes. Recently, Puppy-dog Erik and Dumbass Jason have had a lot of visibility because their time is short in this game. That leaves Natalie and Alexis. Natalie has had absolutely the worst edit ever in Survivor for someone who has made the jury stage of the game. She's not winning. On the other hand, Alexis has received some key confessionals and visibility in the opening episode and in the merge episode. If a fan wins, it will be Alexis. What about Parvati ? I think it's safe to say that she does not get Ozzy's vote. I also think it's safe to say that she probably doesn't get Eliza's vote either. Will she get Amanda's vote ? Probably. Will she get Cirie's vote ? Maybe. Erik and Jason will probably vote for Alexis. And so will Ozzy. And James. Natalie might get Cirie's vote and maybe one of Jason/Erk. And that's it. ALEXIS WINS MICRONESIA. Will she be a "default winner" editing-wise ? Yep. But she will win. |
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Posts: 7157 (04/20/08 1:33 PM) Registered user |
ALEXIS WINS MICRONESIA 
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Oowatanite |
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Posts: 5085 (04/20/08 1:34 PM) Registered User |
SurvivorFanGP has a clue
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Relynn |
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Posts: 234 (04/20/08 1:42 PM) Registered user |
Oowatanite wrote: I'm not going by my space friends in the sense of this means people make the jury. I'm going by my space friends in the fact that Pavarti talks
about how her and Cirie were at one poitn really tight from Day 1. So why is it that he and Cirie aren't My Space Friends. I think it's because one
betrays the others. Natalie is on Cirie's My Space Friends list, but Pavarti and Alexis aren't. I think that is a good indicator.
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Posts: 887 (04/20/08 1:43 PM) |
Firebolt102890 wrote: I think it's likely that they just don't know what's going to happen next. I don't see Cirie beating Amanda in a vote. Ozzy, Erik and James are locks for Amanda in my opinion, and the only lock for Cirie would be Eliza. Parvati, Alexis, Natalie and Jason would all be up in the air. |
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Posts: 8765 (04/20/08 1:45 PM) Registered User |
The issue with Alexis, is that she has a worse edit than Amanda did last season. If she were the winner, you'd think they'd have given her something by
now. She has the merge episode, but many of the confessionals weren't significant. Her edit this season resembles Micronesia Amanda... both fairly low key.
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Posts: 888 (04/20/08 1:48 PM) |
To me it's telling that everyone is so glowing about Alexis and Cirie post-game. It seems like the way people felt about Kathy. Who are people not
mentioning or vaguely putting down? Amanda, Parvati and Natalie. There's bitterness towards them. Jealousy.
Ozzy said he "didn't want to jinx it" with who he wanted to win. I can believe Amanda is in the finals. |
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Posts: 7158 (04/20/08 1:49 PM) Registered user |
Oowatanite wrote: Go back to spamming up your borewhore's deserted love thread, twunt. I don't see Cirie beating Amanda in a vote. Ozzy, Erik and James are locks for Amanda in my opinion, and the only lock for Cirie would be Eliza. Parvati, Alexis, Natalie and Jason would all be up in the air.I think she has Eliza and Erik on lock, I don't think we've ever seen anything that indicates Amanda and Erik are close. We haven't seen anything with Erik/Cirie either, but apparently they're a lot closer than what's being shown. Amanda's "arc", or what have you, lately, could be telling of how she could lose, as much as I doubt her losing to even Parvati. Cirie's been more into the "Girl Power" alliance than Amanda has, and was left out of the loop (for obvious reasons), so they could potentially vote for Cirie. |
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Firebolt102890 |
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Posts: 3 (04/20/08 1:50 PM) |
Katy Carney wrote: Thanks, thats what I thought. |
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Katy Carney |
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Posts: 889 (04/20/08 1:53 PM) |
It's hard to say. I just know that post-boot interviews indicate that Cirie doesn't make it. Ozzy said his boot was all that Cirie masterminded. That
it was the end of her masterminding. Ami said Cirie might regret booting her but that Amanda wouldn't. Eliza said she would've been loyal to
"someone" and could've helped them at some point.
But I also don't see how Parvati can win. So that leaves a suck winner aka Alexis or Amanda. All I know for sure is that Parvati is in the F3/F2 and that Natalie doesn't win. I'm confident about those things. |
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Firebolt102890 |
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Posts: 4 (04/20/08 1:53 PM) |
Katy Carney wrote: Ooh, where did Ozzy say that? I too would see that as an indicator that Amanda is in the finals. Because why would Ozzy care about jinxing anyone else besides his GF? |
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