Am I confused?
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Kayleekat3 |
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veto winner can't be voted out, right?
Am I confused? |
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DeadTwista |
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ZachtheOgre wrote: Your right she did. What the fuck was he talking about then. |
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anders332 |
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ZachtheOgre wrote: Dick used it on Danielle, Danielle only ever used it on herself. And it wasn't the final 4 - that was the week Dick made every's life a living hell (moreso than usual)...... I understand the using it on yourself, since whoever is not on the block can't get off, but if one of the folks on the block wanted to use it on the other they should be able to - but I don't know why anyone would want to do that. |
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ZachtheOgre |
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Kayleekat3 wrote: Yeah. Cowboy wasn't nominated, won it, and saved Diane. He didn't have to officially "vote to evict" Nakomis, she was just forced to leave at that point because she was the only nominee. |
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browneyes125 |
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My understanding of what Dick said is that the person not nominated can't use the veto because there would be no one one left as a replacement nominee.
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anders332 |
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Kayleekat3 wrote: no you're not confused - if you win veto you are also immune from being put up (if you're not already on) that's why it can't be used by that person. |
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ZachtheOgre |
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anders332 wrote: No, Daniele most assuredly used it on Dick at F4. |
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elliorose |
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Anders:
Actually at F4 Dani won POV and used it on Dick who then voted Jameka out. Dick was pleasantly surprised that Dani used it on him but it really wasn't a sacrifice on her part at that point in the game. |
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Garbotalk |
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Dick just discussed this on housecalls! He said he was told at final 4, you can only use the veto on yourself, unless you are the HOH. Why? Because POV
winner can't be put on the block. So if they use it on someone else, that leaves only one person on the block, not allowable. Basically, whoever wins POV
chooses who goes home, period. They don't need to take someone else off the block anyway, because they have the only vote.
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ZachtheOgre |
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Garbotalk wrote: That's obviously bullshit, because Cowboy did that very thing- he saved Diane with the veto at F4. |
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Pragmatically Absurd |
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Here is my understanding of the F4 Veto:
Dick said on Housecalls that the F4 Veto is different from all the others in that it cannot be used to take someone else off the block; it can only be used to save yourself (or keep the noms the same, if you're not on the block). It has to work this way because if you're not the one on the block but you win the Veto, you could conceivably take someone off the block to save them. Problem is, there's nobody to replace them with except YOU. The nature of the Veto is such that the Veto winner is safe from the block, though. So it fucks everything up. True, the HOH could win and change the noms without having to put his/herself on the block, but that would be giving the HOH an additional power with the final Veto that is unavailable to the other three, and that wouldn't be fair. Now. Doesn't that make sense? Grodner will be on Housecalls tomorrow. Maybe she will give her spin on it. Also I want to hear what she says about that HOH guinea pig question. |
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DeadTwista |
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Garbotalk wrote: I heard him say pretty much the same thing except I thought he said inculding HoH which made zero sense to me. Fuck it. It doesnt matter anyway as Baller is going to come through with the veto. |
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wmdaggie |
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ZachtheOgre wrote: Can't we just get a vid posted? it would settle it, cause I distinctly remember Dick's Jameka, your outta here speech. |
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xabana |
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I think that was ceremonial to show him saving Diane over his sister. Even if he didn't use the POV, he had the only vote and then would have voted for
Nakomis to leave.
Same thing, really. |
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ZachtheOgre |
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Pragmatically Absurd wrote: bb5: Drew Nominates Diane/Nakomis, Cowboy wins veto, he saves Diane with veto (he did NOT have to say "I vote to evict Nakomis", he used the veto) bb8: Zach Nominates Donatos. Dani wins, takes down Dick, Jameka goes up and out. So either Dick is making shit up or the DR was. |
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manfreddi |
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But weren't both Dick and Danielle on the block? So her using it on her father made her father the only voter? And he wasn't going to vote her off.
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DeadTwista |
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wmdaggie wrote: Dont know about a vid but Zach is right. Dani used it on Dick. Giving Dick the right to evict Jameka. The your outta here speach. |
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One mean spider |
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ZachtheOgre wrote: Maybe Dick has had way too many drinks and drugs since then and just can't remember correctly. I dunno...maybe?
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Pragmatically Absurd |
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Yeah, I'm more confused than ever now.
Be ready to call in and grill Grodner tomorrow. |
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anders332 |
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From your lips to God's ears......
I stand corrected about F4 POV....... |
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