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For example Skeptic, I could say you really love Jonathan and don't like the couples. You went against the edgic majority and insisted Cirie was Negative and Jonathan more Neu in their big episode 3 confrontation. Cirie sides with the wrong people, you don't like her anymore. That's how you experienced that episode, because of who your faves are.

"Neither Jonathan nor Cirie came across very well at TC. Jonathan was pissed (IMO deservedly) because Cirie admitted telling them they were with the Jonathan group and going away from them (bad move on Cirie's part - she admitted to a betrayal. It must have been frustrating for him precisely because he had been honest with her but she was basically saying he was totally untrustworthy (ah, the glories of ASS seasons.!)

Despite all that, I think Cirie probably made the right move just because I think she has more strategic options down the road with the paired people, especially when she's aware of Parvati's plan to willingly boot James (was that wise to admit to Cirie?)

I noted last week that Cirie had in 2 eps gone through her entire story arc of her first ep - from scared and unsure to laughing, enjoying the game, and doing good strategy. Now comes this week and we get an entirely new Cirie. It wasn't bitchiness, but no-holds-barred playing. Yes, I think she made the right strategic maneuver, but to be so blatant about it was dangerous. And she really had no defense when Penner said she's in control of the game.

And that's what I want to see from the faves: I want Ami to try and succeed at making an all-gal alliance. I want Eliza to be sneaky, smart, and succeed. I want Parv to be Little Miss Flirt then turn around and stab James in the back. Oz to be more strategic and aware. Amanda? Meh. But I hope you see my drift. This is what ASS should have been, but they were all media whores. The faves are Players. Thank god, and they have egos of the Type-A variety, and when they clash it will be good. And it was.

We have two very strong personalities, and we saw them argue. Calling Jonathan NN is silly. He was frustrated at the obvious point of "St. Cirie" openly admitting she betrayed an alliance. Adn Cirie was ticked at Jonathan - who she basically thinks of as Mr. Manipulation being ticked at her (from her perspective) quite logical decision. Yes, Jonathan was pushy. He was also scared to death. He was more than whistling past the graveyard, he was seeing Cirie's strategy absolutely blow apart his alliance. The most telling moment was when he told everyone that Cirie is totally taking control of the game, and Cirie... didn't deny it. (Reinforcing James' earlier perceptive and N SPV.)

More about Jonathan - he said some pretty clear contradicted SPV stuff earlier. Don't worry, he said to Eliza - Cirie won't be taken in by the line of bull that Parv and Amanda were shoveling. Well, she switched, but was she taken in or using them? Eliza was far more objective, and worried. Later, Jonathan said that the other alliance was fractured on who to vote for and we just gotta keep 'em in that frame of mind - and Eliza said that they wouldn't stay fractured cuz that would be 100% stupid. Eliza was again right. (Add to Eliza's wise observations the absolute 100% insistence that Cirie would NOT vote for her made Eliza's stock rise for me.)

So tone? No way Cirie is P. That's a joke.
No way Jonathan is NN. That's a joke.

I could even see M for both of them more than the P and NN that some are suggesting. Yes, Jonathan was sarcastic, but only when Cirie said something obviously self-serving and facile. And Cirie (IMO, if it matters) made the right decision.

I doubt it matters to you, Craig, but I gave both of them CPN. So much for loving Jonathan.

I think Cirie is playing a terrific game and is still high on my winners list. So much for not liking her any more. By saying she's more N than the last time is NOT disliking her. It's analyzing her edit.

And Parv? Look at what I said about her in the above! I WANT her to backstab and show more than just flirting with anything that moves and has a deep voice. Show us some game. That's all. But her edit is still great for a winner.

You say you don't to engage in ad hominem attacks. well, cool. But don't distort my own record to justify your own style of ratings.