I got the impression they were cheering more for Jaslene, even though the dress was nice. I wonder if Bianca got any sort of applause. 
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Yaz Pistachio |
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Posts: 95 (03/07/08 10:51 AM) Registered User |
I agree that's the best I've ever seen her look. Maybe it's the softer hair and makeup, or just the femininity of the dress itself.
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Posts: 5090 (03/07/08 12:31 PM) Registered User |
Kinda like What Not To Wear or Tim Gunn's Guide to Style or How To Look Good Naked? Yeah, we need ANOTHER one of thoseYou forgot How Do I Look?, Fashion Emergency and Fashion Court. |
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Posts: 2210 (03/07/08 12:36 PM) BB Forum Moderator |
And 10 Years Younger on TLC!
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Posts: 3323 (03/07/08 1:42 PM) Registered User |
i didn't realize till a blog pointed it out - this is Jaslene from ANTM :)You guys sure are late to the party. This was discussed eons ago. |
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Posts: 29733 (03/07/08 2:35 PM) Registered user |
Awesome that Christian won and YES it was money in the bank as soon as they announced Posh as guest judge. And anyone going on about how unwearable
Christian's stuff is probably hasn't picked up Vogue lately. Christian's stuff was The Gap compared to some of the crazy ass shit in the March
issue.
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Posts: 2105 (03/07/08 2:56 PM) Registered User |
It's not so much a question of wearablilty. But more about who in the hell is brave enough to look like they were on their way to a Halloween party
dressed as a pirate.
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Posts: 3353 (03/07/08 3:01 PM) |
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Posts: 3325 (03/07/08 3:04 PM) Registered User |
^^^The question is are you his customer? If you are thin and unbelievably rich then you are. I can't imagine that most people who buy Vogue think that
they can fit in or afford anything that appears in that magazine. It is simply not within the range of most people. If he had done a ready-to-wear line then
I can understand moaning about wearability, but his line was mostly couture so that doesn't really apply.
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Posts: 3661 (03/07/08 3:10 PM) Registered user |
do rich thin people walk around in feathered ruffles?
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Posts: 5049 (03/07/08 3:27 PM) Registered user |
Well, you know what they say...money can't buy taste.
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Posts: 5096 (03/07/08 3:31 PM) Registered User |
What you have to remember about high fashion is that it isn't meant to be worn by everyone. We are meant to wear the knock offs - which take elements of
the original couture and make them wearable for us regular people.
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Posts: 2291 (03/07/08 3:36 PM) Registered User |
Does anybody even buy/wear the original couture pieces in most cases? If so, where do they wear them? Are there crazy society events where women show up in
this freaky shit? Wow! I always assumed that over-the-top runway fashion was simply a marketing tool to get people excited about the more wearable lines that
sell as a result of the prestige of the unwearable stuff.
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Posts: 1492 (03/07/08 3:42 PM) Registered user |
Lovejonze wrote: Exactly. I don't know why more poeple don't know this. This was exactly the point of the Avant Garde challenge. I guess I learned something all those years ago watching Style With Else Klensch on CNN. Do you really think that the shirt you are wearing right now walked down the runway during Fashion Week? |
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Posts: 4786 (03/07/08 3:49 PM) Registered User |
Guess I'm just too ordinary in expecting reality shows presented on the same network to have the same judging standards. If a top chef can win only by
creating something that is edible, why is it that a fashion designer can win by designing something that is not wearable.
Yeah, yeah, I get it, fashion is art and high fashion is high art. But shouldn't it come down to what will sell? It does for everything else, including other arts, such as painting, photography, writing, architecture, plays, and music. Why should fashion be treated differently? And even assuming fashion should stand alone and that it shouldn't matter whether a design is wearable, or desirable, the fact remains that what Christian designed was just flat out ugly. How you reward that I don't know. |
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Posts: 3663 (03/07/08 4:01 PM) Registered user |
yes, we GET the fashion is art and the runway isn't wearable argument.
the problem is that what christian sent down the runway was ugly art (and almost monotonous in his black/cream color choices and design elements of slim thin pants on ruffled jackets), and under no conceivable way able to inspire ready to wear looks. maybe PRunway should change the rules a bit so that the final challenge is kinda like the avant garde one - with OTT looks sent down with toned down versions. |
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Posts: 1493 (03/07/08 4:07 PM) Registered user |
Why should one show have the same judging standards as the next, regardless of their network? Why should it come down to what will sell to the masses? Couture exists because there is a market for it, somewhere. I don't find Christian's designs ugly at all. I find them beautiful and artistic. It's just a matter of taste, or preference. I really did
not care for Rami's collection, while I know others think he should have won. I disagreed with Jeffrey's winning but so what?
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Posts: 875 (03/07/08 4:12 PM) Registered User |
Oh, to be honest, I don't have a fucking clue how fashion really works. Every new bit of info I hear turns the last thing I knew on its head. But my
current understanding is that the vast majority of shows are ready to wear shows. Yes, there's insane stuff everywhere but really most of it is meant to be
sold as is, or with only minor editing. If you search for "ready to wear" or "fashion week 2008" on YouTube most of the shows you see have
perfectly reasonable clothes in them.
The only time where many actual, genuine haute couture shows seems to take place is at Paris Fashion Week. I remember Tim saying in his podcast after the haute couture episode last year that it's actually a copyrighted term by the French government and there are all these rules and regulations that you have to conform to in order to have a "proper" haute couture show. But the thing is, as people have been saying, those shows are basically meant to be done as advertisements for your wearable stuff, since the best dresses in them take months to make and can't be mass produced (yes, you sell that one dress for tens of thousands, but it's still not very profitable). So Christian can't really start out by blowing his 100K (or whatever that is after tax) on making haute couture gowns. Of course now, someone will come along and prove me completely wrong. |
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Posts: 5102 (03/07/08 4:13 PM) Registered User |
Christian worked for Alexander McQueen and someone else - Dior? He has couture experience. Couture gowns must be hand sewn.
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Posts: 3328 (03/07/08 5:00 PM) Registered User |
So Christian can't really start out by blowing his 100K (or whatever that is after tax) on making haute couture gowns.Uhm, making haute couture is a business. There is a market for it or else it wouldn't exist. And whatever money Christian uses for his business is tax deductible. He'll be fine. |
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