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Kenscookie		#2681	[-]
Posts: 5025 (02/28/08 12:35 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Utopian wrote: Yes, that Jillian hat was pretty bad. But she still wears clothes that look great on her. Yeah, she really does. I want her to win so badly because I love those short little rhumba skirts that she wears and I'm hoping she will sell some on QVC or someplace (at a price that is not too, too heart-attack inducing) so I can pick one up. I SO need to have one of those skirts. That hat, on the other hand, was awful. A hot tranny mess if I ever saw one. I was sitting there like, nuh-uh....girl...wtf is that thing on your head and what the hell are you thinking? Where were her gay advisors when she needed them?
sugarrhill		#2682	[-]
Posts: 3292 (02/28/08 12:42 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Wow, you Chris lovers need to put down the Cool Aid. His stuff was hideous. And it looked even worse on the runway. All the judges were being super nice to him. Their expressions said it all. And this isn't a case of being underwhelmed like Laura's impeccable line last year. This was a case of being gobsmacked at how bad those looks were. I kept thinking "Who's his customer?" I mean Laura's line may have been the same old same old but she knew her customer, rich Upper Eastside Ladies Who Lunch. I liked one outfit of his, the human hair cocktail dress with the lace top, but everything else looked liked it had been taken from the set of Buffy the Vampire Slayer. The only thing new and fresh about his collection was the fact that he used human hair. Everything else looked like a goth redux.
Kenscookie		#2683	[-]
Posts: 5026 (02/28/08 12:42 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	- Where is Nina Garcia from? I find her accent to be annoying and ridiculous. From the ninth circle of hell. Last Edited By: Kenscookie 02/28/08 12:45 PM. Edited 1 times.
chelleforrupert		#2684	[-]
Posts: 8384 (02/28/08 12:54 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	sugarrhill wrote: Wow, you Chris lovers need to put down the Cool Aid. His stuff was hideous. And it looked even worse on the runway. All the judges were being super nice to him. Their expressions said it all. And this isn't a case of being underwhelmed like Laura's impeccable line last year. This was a case of being gobsmacked at how bad those looks were. I kept thinking "Who's his customer?" I mean Laura's line may have been the same old same old but she knew her customer, rich Upper Eastside Ladies Who Lunch. I liked one outfit of his, the human hair cocktail dress with the lace top, but everything else looked liked it had been taken from the set of Buffy the Vampire Slayer. The only thing new and fresh about his collection was the fact that he used human hair. Everything else looked like a goth redux. As opposed to all of the people who just LOVE to wear a HUMONGOUS HIDEOUS NEON BLUE coat or a black dress that makes the skeletal model look fat???? What are YOU smoking?
sugarrhill		#2685	[-]
Posts: 3294 (02/28/08 1:02 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	^^^Uhm, still better than the customes Chris March paraded down that runway. I'm not saying that Rami didn't have his issues, but he had less of them than Chris.
dissimilis		#2686	[-]
Posts: 5496 (02/28/08 1:13 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I've never liked Chris, havent liked anything he has done on the show and cringed when he was brought back, but his 3 pieces blew Rami's out of the water, IMO. The best of the 6 pieces was definitely Chris' human hair bottom with the lace top piece, and his other two were the 3rd and 4th best...The judges clearly had it in their heads that Rami was going on no matter what, and thats what happened.
Kenscookie		#2687	[-]
Posts: 5027 (02/28/08 1:22 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	To each his own, but personally, if I had the choice between something that's a little out there but slimming and something that makes me look like the Michelin man....yeah, slimming would win every time.
PeachessandCreeams		#2688	[-]
Posts: 8443 (02/28/08 1:32 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I'm sad Chris didn't make it. Oh well at least my favorite, Christian, is in the F3.
Mister Yuck		#2689	[-]
Posts: 1790 (02/28/08 1:46 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Kenscookie wrote: - Where is Nina Garcia from? I find her accent to be annoying and ridiculous. From the ninth circle of hell. otherwise known as Colombia
Drew B		#2690	[-]
Posts: 2218 (02/28/08 1:48 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Disappointing... If it had actually been Rami's three strongest looks vs. Chris's three strongest looks, I wouldn't have minded Rami "winning". As it was, Rami showed one strong look covered by an unpleasant outer garment between two DREADFUL looks. Given the outfits they showed, Chris SO should have won! As for those who complain about Chris' "costume" sensibility, have they never heard of Jean-Paul Gaulthier? Chris is NOT going to be dressing everyday women in the clothes from his line (neither is Christian, by the way). So what? Nobody ever said that these lines needed to be ready-to-wear, commercial pieces. We had the SJP challenge for that. It is perfectly valid to do a more evocative, out-there line, and it's even valid that in Chris' long gown, the model couldn't walk freely. This collection was about art, not wearability... That is one element in fashion, and you will see plenty of fashion shows by top designers where they show clothes that are absurdly unwearable... And the photo of Rami's mother looked like...Rami in a wig. Really, Cousin Ollie? I found that Rami's mother looked EXACTLY like... Jillian! Shockingly so, in fact!
ANDand19		#2691	[-]
Posts: 1516 (02/28/08 1:50 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I missed the episode last night. I'm guessing Rami stayed? I'm glad because Chris was too inconsistent.
sugarrhill		#2692	[-]
Posts: 3296 (02/28/08 2:11 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	^^^Chris's clothes were wearable, that wasn't the problem. They were ugly is the problem. The rest of his line is not as objectionable though, but I still see it as too Hot Topic and not high fashion. Yes, I've heard of Jean-Paul Gaultier. But Chris March is no Jean-Paul Gaultier. And I certainly don't expect any of these designers to be dressing "the everyday woman." I mean, I'm rooting for Christian. However, I don't know who his customer would be. Say what you want about Jeffrey, but he knew his customer. It's the same people that buy Betsey Johnson and Heatherette. However, the goth look Chris aimed for just wasn't refined as much. I thought there were a few pieces that definitely achieved a higher aesthetic, but at the end of the day crushed velvet looks tacky and cheap.
Drew B		#2693	[-]
Posts: 2220 (02/28/08 2:14 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	sugarrhill wrote: Yes, I've heard of Jean-Paul Gaultier. But Chris March is no Jean-Paul Gaultier. That wasn't directed at you, Sugarrhill you are not the one saying Chris line is too costume-y.
CorkySteinbrenner		#2694	[-]
Posts: 4951 (02/28/08 2:23 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	As the only heterosexual male watching this show, I have a serious question... Why CAN'T these designers make men's clothes? The men's challenge is always the worst...what is so hard about making pants and a shirt for a guy that they just don't get? In my head, if they were on Top Chef, they couldn't get away without only making chicken and not know how to cook a steak...know what I mean?
FingerWagginAlicia		#2695	[-]
Posts: 2315 (02/28/08 2:32 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Corky, I'll use your food analogy...think Iron Chef. Two chefs given the same ingredients are best at what they know best. You're not gonna want your Sushi rolls made by the German trained cook, right? I don't love the idea of Salmon and potatoes in a sausage served on rice. It's along the same lines. They might make something resembling the actual thing, but there is a reason people specialize. Like Doctors, you don't want your Podiatrist giving you a colonoscopy. With clothes, it's a different set of rules for seams, sizing, proportion...why don't high fashion names usually make "plus-size" clothes? It's the same boat.
IslandmanPT		#2696	[-]
Posts: 238 (02/28/08 2:34 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	CorkySteinbrenner wrote: As the only heterosexual male watching this show, I have a serious question... Why CAN'T these designers make men's clothes? The men's challenge is always the worst...what is so hard about making pants and a shirt for a guy that they just don't get? In my head, if they were on Top Chef, they couldn't get away without only making chicken and not know how to cook a steak...know what I mean? Designing for men's clothes can be VERY different...and frankly, most designers don't even go there or get any experience in it. High fashion is largely focused towards women's clothing...so that is naturally where designers want to be. FIT is the only design school (in the world, i think) to offer a program that focuses specifically on men's clothing.....tells you how little the demand or interest is for those interested in design to work in men's clothing. I'd love to see that change and for there to be a greater focus during fashion weeks on men's clothing and the creativity that can go into creating a men's line...but think it will always be much less praised than women's design...
Lamont and Ray		#2697	[-]
Posts: 2952 (02/28/08 2:38 PM) Sanctimonious AI Moderator Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	LaurenTheLush wrote: As much as I don't mind Chris..... using human hair, or any hair for that matter, makes me want to vomit. ROBOJILLIAN, FTW! I find that view so ironic...given that the vast majority of us wear human hair every single day of our lives. And what about charities like "Locks of Love" that make wigs for kids with cancer or alopecia and such? Is that gross, too?
CorkySteinbrenner		#2698	[-]
Posts: 4952 (02/28/08 3:07 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Makes sense...thanks, guys. I guess I get the term "designer" in my head and think they should be able to "design" for anyone. Not that I'm a fashionista or anything, but I'm always surprised by the lack of men's designers. I really should stop reading Esquire and wishing I had the money to look that good. :)
sugarrhill		#2699	[-]
Posts: 3297 (02/28/08 3:13 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	You know what, Drew, I have to say that I'm disappointed with Chris. Chris completely threw me with his line. It was nothing like what he's done on the show. I don't think Chris March's line was too costumey. I just think it just wasn't very original. If he had done a line that essentially looked like the gown he made for the last challenge then I wouldn't have minded. I love flair and dramatics on the runway. But the thing is that most of his line looked like outfits from a vampire movie club scene. I expected over-the-top glamour from him and got teen goth. It ended up being a collection of wierd shit, that was only weird because of the material. I was actually surprised I found myself liking the human hair cocktail dress even if I can't imagine anyone wearing it, but that was the one avant garde look that I thought worked. But most of his other looks had this cheap look and feel to them.
cindidindi76		#2700	[-]
Posts: 8891 (02/28/08 3:44 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	CorkySteinbrenner wrote: As the only heterosexual male watching this show, I have a serious question... You're not the only one, there are one or two others. Okay, so Rami's dress that everyone loved? The draped black and white one? I hated it. Absolutely hated it! It was well made and all that stuff, but I hated the pattern/fabric SO MUCH!! I hated it almost as much as the blue coat. I also really like Chris' cocktail dress. I haven't looked at the collections at all, so I was very worried about the hair, but it looked a lot better than I thought it would. Fucking TV Guide channel, I was seeing what was on last night and they were talking about the PR finale, and wouldn't you know they showed what I can only assume was Christian's whole damn collection? Fuckers. I didn't really see anything specific because I looked away, but WTF TVG?!

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