Leslie, You go girl

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pagonglover		#261	[-]
Posts: 3856 (01/17/08 9:01 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Wow Leslie- I love your posts! They're very insightful. Keep it up! :)
agentpf1101		#262	[-]
Posts: 8 (01/17/08 9:39 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	i have a perosnal relationship with cheeses. yet i am lactose intolerant?
McWolcott		#263	[-]
Posts: 5880 (01/17/08 9:39 AM) The Real American Psycho Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite
afreek4God		#264	[-]
Posts: 16 (01/17/08 10:02 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	agentpf1101 wrote: i have a perosnal relationship with cheeses. yet i am lactose intolerant? lol- sounds uncomfortable.
survivor300		#265	[-]
Posts: 2129 (01/17/08 10:08 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Leslie, how do you feel about the opening crying intro that you had for China?
Francois40		#266	[-]
Posts: 1795 (01/17/08 10:45 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	^ She has mentioned before that she had already predicted that that's what they would show, I think. BTW, Leslie (no more theology from me!), I HATED what they did to your hair at the Reunion (ditto Sherea's and Courtney's). It looks a lot better with some curl, and frankly, I really liked the ponytail look while you were "on the island". Did y'all have any say on your hairstyles, or was it more "sit here and shut up"? One more question I haven't been able to get answered from anyone else: I read many seasons ago that Survivors are not allowed to watch the show (when airing) with anyone except perhaps a small family group, the reason being that you, too, are seeing things you didn't know about (confessionals, the other camp) and you might blurt out something that would give away info to others watching? Is this true--is there any rule about watching the show when it airs "in public" or with crowds? Thx
survivor300		#267	[-]
Posts: 2132 (01/17/08 11:04 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	^^^ Todd answered this one.. he said you can watch but not bet.
afreek4Satan		#268	[-]
Posts: 11 (01/17/08 11:41 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	afreek4God wrote: agentpf1101 wrote: i have a perosnal relationship with cheeses. yet i am lactose intolerant? lol- sounds uncomfortable. Quit judging, queer!
afreek4God		#269	[-]
Posts: 17 (01/17/08 12:41 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	afreek4Satan wrote: afreek4God wrote: agentpf1101 wrote: i have a perosnal relationship with cheeses. yet i am lactose intolerant? lol- sounds uncomfortable. Quit judging, queer! Hmmm.. who's judging who here bud!? Perhaps you should google lactose intolerance so that the medical professionals can describe to you the amount of pain involved within the stomach.
gibson97		#270	[-]
Posts: 232 (01/17/08 1:09 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	BentBentley wrote: That was an inspirational post, Leslie! It was so deep. <3 Wow...it's sad that people turn a blind eye b/c they are starstruck by a reality media whore that pops up on the boards flaunting her "morality." Come on people, open your eyes. Leslie's ideas are crazy BS, no matter if she was on Survivor or not. Let's be honest here.
PagongSchlong		#271	[-]
Posts: 1812 (01/17/08 2:09 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	gibson97 wrote: BentBentley wrote: That was an inspirational post, Leslie! It was so deep. <3 Wow...it's sad that people turn a blind eye b/c they are starstruck by a reality media whore that pops up on the boards flaunting her "morality." Come on people, open your eyes. Leslie's ideas are crazy BS, no matter if she was on Survivor or not. Let's be honest here. I'll shed my persona here for a second to disagree with you. Leslie isn't flaunting her morality. Additionally, I do not find her posts "preachy". She's not preaching to anyone. I think she's been mildly attacked and is merely defending her beliefs. Kudos to her for that. And I think she's got some balls to do it here of all places. To each his own. With that said.... *PRAISE BE TO JONATHAN CHRIST!!!*
gibson97		#272	[-]
Posts: 233 (01/17/08 3:28 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	PagongSchlong wrote: gibson97 wrote: BentBentley wrote: That was an inspirational post, Leslie! It was so deep. <3 Wow...it's sad that people turn a blind eye b/c they are starstruck by a reality media whore that pops up on the boards flaunting her "morality." Come on people, open your eyes. Leslie's ideas are crazy BS, no matter if she was on Survivor or not. Let's be honest here. I'll shed my persona here for a second to disagree with you. Leslie isn't flaunting her morality. Additionally, I do not find her posts "preachy". She's not preaching to anyone. I think she's been mildly attacked and is merely defending her beliefs. Kudos to her for that. And I think she's got some balls to do it here of all places. To each his own. With that said.... *PRAISE BE TO JONATHAN CHRIST!!!* Your response shows you truly don't understand the issue at hand. If Leslie were defending her belief that Black people are wrong and going to hell because they are black, she would be justified and it would be OK because it's her beliefs? No. The point is, her beliefs are discriminatory and she is downright WRONG. There is a wrong and right in this situation and the wrong is LESLIE.
PagongSchlong		#273	[-]
Posts: 1813 (01/17/08 3:39 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	gibson97 wrote: PagongSchlong wrote: gibson97 wrote: BentBentley wrote: That was an inspirational post, Leslie! It was so deep. <3 Wow...it's sad that people turn a blind eye b/c they are starstruck by a reality media whore that pops up on the boards flaunting her "morality." Come on people, open your eyes. Leslie's ideas are crazy BS, no matter if she was on Survivor or not. Let's be honest here. I'll shed my persona here for a second to disagree with you. Leslie isn't flaunting her morality. Additionally, I do not find her posts "preachy". She's not preaching to anyone. I think she's been mildly attacked and is merely defending her beliefs. Kudos to her for that. And I think she's got some balls to do it here of all places. To each his own. With that said.... *PRAISE BE TO JONATHAN CHRIST!!!* Your response shows you truly don't understand the issue at hand. If Leslie were defending her belief that Black people are wrong and going to hell because they are black, she would be justified and it would be OK because it's her beliefs? No. The point is, her beliefs are discriminatory and she is downright WRONG. There is a wrong and right in this situation and the wrong is LESLIE. Oh, but you are RIGHT because your views are different than her's. Be quiet now. Your argument is NULL. The bottom line is everyone has a right to their own belief. Leslie is basing a large portion on her beliefs based on her understanding of the Bible. Whether or not you agree with that is your business. She's not cramming anything down your throat. She's stating her belief. Whether or not she's wrong is not for you to decide, homeschool.
gibson97		#274	[-]
Posts: 234 (01/17/08 3:43 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	PagongSchlong wrote: gibson97 wrote: PagongSchlong wrote: gibson97 wrote: BentBentley wrote: That was an inspirational post, Leslie! It was so deep. <3 Wow...it's sad that people turn a blind eye b/c they are starstruck by a reality media whore that pops up on the boards flaunting her "morality." Come on people, open your eyes. Leslie's ideas are crazy BS, no matter if she was on Survivor or not. Let's be honest here. I'll shed my persona here for a second to disagree with you. Leslie isn't flaunting her morality. Additionally, I do not find her posts "preachy". She's not preaching to anyone. I think she's been mildly attacked and is merely defending her beliefs. Kudos to her for that. And I think she's got some balls to do it here of all places. To each his own. With that said.... *PRAISE BE TO JONATHAN CHRIST!!!* Your response shows you truly don't understand the issue at hand. If Leslie were defending her belief that Black people are wrong and going to hell because they are black, she would be justified and it would be OK because it's her beliefs? No. The point is, her beliefs are discriminatory and she is downright WRONG. There is a wrong and right in this situation and the wrong is LESLIE. Oh, but you are RIGHT because your views are different than her's. Be quiet now. Your argument is NULL. The bottom line is everyone has a right to their own belief. Leslie is basing a large portion on her beliefs based on her understanding of the Bible. Whether or not you agree with that is your business. She's not cramming anything down your throat. She's stating her belief. Whether or not she's wrong is not for you to decide, homeschool. This really isn't a religious issue...At its core it's an issue of discrimination. Discrimination is a universal wrong and can never be justified. Leslie IS wrong...and you're just an idiot. Last Edited By: gibson97 01/17/08 3:47 PM. Edited 1 times.
PagongSchlong		#275	[-]
Posts: 1814 (01/17/08 3:53 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	gibson97 wrote: PagongSchlong wrote: gibson97 wrote: PagongSchlong wrote: gibson97 wrote: BentBentley wrote: That was an inspirational post, Leslie! It was so deep. <3 Wow...it's sad that people turn a blind eye b/c they are starstruck by a reality media whore that pops up on the boards flaunting her "morality." Come on people, open your eyes. Leslie's ideas are crazy BS, no matter if she was on Survivor or not. Let's be honest here. I'll shed my persona here for a second to disagree with you. Leslie isn't flaunting her morality. Additionally, I do not find her posts "preachy". She's not preaching to anyone. I think she's been mildly attacked and is merely defending her beliefs. Kudos to her for that. And I think she's got some balls to do it here of all places. To each his own. With that said.... *PRAISE BE TO JONATHAN CHRIST!!!* Your response shows you truly don't understand the issue at hand. If Leslie were defending her belief that Black people are wrong and going to hell because they are black, she would be justified and it would be OK because it's her beliefs? No. The point is, her beliefs are discriminatory and she is downright WRONG. There is a wrong and right in this situation and the wrong is LESLIE. Oh, but you are RIGHT because your views are different than her's. Be quiet now. Your argument is NULL. The bottom line is everyone has a right to their own belief. Leslie is basing a large portion on her beliefs based on her understanding of the Bible. Whether or not you agree with that is your business. She's not cramming anything down your throat. She's stating her belief. Whether or not she's wrong is not for you to decide, homeschool. This really isn't a religious issue...At its core it's an issue of discrimination. Discrimination is a universal wrong and can never be justified. Hmmm. Not sure where you're going with the discrimination issue. If you're implying that Leslie is being discriminatory against...let's say...homosexuals, then I would be forced to disagree with you solely based on her relationship with Todd. I don't get it. How is she discriminating?
MoGuL0212		#276	[-]
Posts: 2792 (01/17/08 4:17 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Gibson, I think you're missing Leslie's point. Her views of the Bible state that homosexuality was deemed a sin by her god, and therefore in her beliefs the beef is between the individual and their god. Not her, for she said flat out that she is not without sin as well. I think you're stereotyping some of the more radical Christians out there that are quick to condemn others as if they are without sin themselves. Pagong's correct in that her friendship with Todd alone speaks volumes that she can separate what her god says is a sin and who is qualified to judge said sin. She stated that is her belief that her god alone was the sole judge, not her. And if you're talking about what is fundamental right versus wrong, there is no clear cut definition that works for everyone on every issue. While you may call someone out for discrimination, in a completely different part of the word you would be chastised for at least one of your own behaviors that the majority of virtuous people in our society would call normal/healthy. As with everything in life, there is no true black and white on the complexities in life. From what I can gather from Leslie, she's a decent individual that has found personal inner strength in something to believe in. Nothing more, nothing less.
PagongSchlong		#277	[-]
Posts: 1815 (01/17/08 4:23 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	MoGuL0212 wrote: From what I can gather from Leslie, she's a decent individual that has found personal inner strength in something to believe in. Nothing more, nothing less. That statement speaks volumes.
gibson97		#278	[-]
Posts: 235 (01/17/08 4:31 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	MoGuL0212 wrote: Gibson, I think you're missing Leslie's point. Her views of the Bible state that homosexuality was deemed a sin by her god, and therefore in her beliefs the beef is between the individual and their god. Not her, for she said flat out that she is not without sin as well. I think you're stereotyping some of the more radical Christians out there that are quick to condemn others as if they are without sin themselves. Pagong's correct in that her friendship with Todd alone speaks volumes that she can separate what her god says is a sin and who is qualified to judge said sin. She stated that is her belief that her god alone was the sole judge, not her. And if you're talking about what is fundamental right versus wrong, there is no clear cut definition that works for everyone on every issue. While you may call someone out for discrimination, in a completely different part of the word you would be chastised for at least one of your own behaviors that the majority of virtuous people in our society would call normal/healthy. As with everything in life, there is no true black and white on the complexities in life. From what I can gather from Leslie, she's a decent individual that has found personal inner strength in something to believe in. Nothing more, nothing less. First off, I find it really caustic everyone sucks up to Leslie b/c she is a reality star and it's downright scary a person with such a narrow mind is represented in such a positive way in such a mainstream medium... Second, one can not separate his/her God's beliefs from his/her own beliefs. Doing so would be completely hypocritical...but hypocrites are what all Christians are all about so I guess it's not that far off. Just b/c Leslie says she doesn't judge, doesn't mean she isn't judging/discriminating...her world revolves around religion and her god's beliefs are her beliefs and they can not be separated...therefore...she's just as bad and just as discriminatory. I'm surprised Todd hasn't come onto the boards into this thread and put in some of his own light. C'mon Todd, be the strong person you are, let's stick up for homosexual rights and prove it's inherently moral! "And if you're talking about what is fundamental right versus wrong, there is no clear cut definition that works for everyone on every issue." hahahahahahahah...so it's ok to discrimination against Blacks...they're all going to hell. Leslie might be a good person, but she is incredibly ignorant and her beliefs are WRONG.
gibson97		#279	[-]
Posts: 236 (01/17/08 4:40 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	MoGuL0212 wrote: And if you're talking about what is fundamental right versus wrong, there is no clear cut definition that works for everyone on every issue. While you may call someone out for discrimination, in a completely different part of the word you would be chastised for at least one of your own behaviors that the majority of virtuous people in our society would call normal/healthy. As with everything in life, there is no true black and white on the complexities in life. But don't you see??? Leslie and her religion's beliefs are clear cut and black and white. Heaven vs Hell, god vs satan, good vs bad... If YOU yourself believe there isn't a clear cut black and white, you can not possibly be open to Leslie's beliefs.
MoGuL0212		#280	[-]
Posts: 2793 (01/17/08 4:55 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Gibson, I don't see eye to eye with Leslie and her faith. I've talked with her about that, I believe she knows my perspective. All I am saying is that I may not agree with everything she believes in, I don't have a problem having a conversation with her since she's not out on a soap box trying to change my own views. I'm far from kissing her ass in any sense. I don't ever get star struck because of fame or job title, one has to earn my respect, it's not given out just because of notoriety or position of presumed authority. Leslie did that when she made "I" statements to back up her beliefs through her faith in scripture. Where as I detest any sort of blanketed judgments based on the lunacy of a book, I can at least respect her dedication to her faith and ability to back it up without a personal attack. Yes the Bible is full of contradictions about judgmental elements, part of why I can't find strength within any aspect of it's teachings. But the inconsistencies are only a part of what someone like Leslie would seem to garner from the book. My assumptions are that she finds peace in the fact that some being is looking out for her, and is there for guidance. This is what I mean when I said that she has found personal strength through her faith. Something with which I am not able to do myself, I find strength personally in knowing that I control my destiny through determination and the amount of effort I put forth, and what happens happens. Not necessarily that it 'happens for a reason' dictated by a powerful being. But that we live in a chaotic and unpredictable world. I could continue, but I at least hope this illustrates my point a bit better.

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