Indecision '08: Why is Chelsea Clinton a candidate for president?

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memyselfandi		#501	[-]
Posts: 9099 (01/06/08 9:08 PM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Hurts So Good? But here, ceegee, I'll fix the sentence. Yeah FDR was rich too, but I think his real-life experiences with wealth and public policies to deal with poverty were more consistent. Oh and he was a way better politician, too.
leeter		#502	[-]
Posts: 1599 (01/06/08 9:12 PM) Registered User More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Can Obama win a Southern State though?
The Annoying Hater		#503	[-]
Posts: 374 (01/06/08 9:18 PM) More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	memyselfandi wrote: But none of the candidates are perfect. And Obama and Edwards would still be way better than Hillary, who is READY TO LEAD us into a new Cold War! Hillary: Putin "doesn't have a soul" This isn't going to play well in Moscow. Speaking in Hampton this evening, Hillary Rodham Clinton said the president of Russia "doesn't have a soul." She was riffing on the danger of inexperience, and reliance on personal relationships, in foreign affairs, indirectly comparing Obama to George W. Bush, who notoriously looked into Vladimir Putin's soul and liked what he saw. "I could have told him - he was a KGB agent. By definition he doesn't have a soul," Clinton joked. She may have been echoing John McCain's somewhat less personal shot at Putin: "I looked into his eyes and saw three letters: a K, a G and a B." Guess Barack's crazy idea of trying to work with the Russians to secure those loose nukes in the old Soviet Union so they don't fall into the hands of terrorists is another case of him peddling "false hopes." You do realize that Putin is a tyrant who kills off those who oppose him, and is bringing Russia closer and closer back to a USSR type state.
memyselfandi		#504	[-]
Posts: 9101 (01/06/08 9:35 PM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	As the election stands now (i.e. no huge stock market crash, recent terrorist attack) I think it's possible. Virginia has elected a black governor (who has endorsed Obama as has the current governor of the state). I personally believe the amount of racists and level of racism that exists is less than the amount of white people who would want to vote for Obama precisely because he is black so they could feel good about themselves as not racist and feel like they are a part of history. And given how depressed most Republicans are about the current GOP field, I could see a lot of Republicans staying home while blacks turn out in record numbers. Now leave it to the next generation of Lee Atwater to prove me wrong, but that's what I'm thinking now. Regardless, I really don't think Obama has any less of a shot of winning a Southern state than Hillary does.
memyselfandi		#505	[-]
Posts: 9102 (01/06/08 9:47 PM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	The Annoying Hater wrote: memyselfandi wrote: But none of the candidates are perfect. And Obama and Edwards would still be way better than Hillary, who is READY TO LEAD us into a new Cold War! Hillary: Putin "doesn't have a soul" This isn't going to play well in Moscow. Speaking in Hampton this evening, Hillary Rodham Clinton said the president of Russia "doesn't have a soul." She was riffing on the danger of inexperience, and reliance on personal relationships, in foreign affairs, indirectly comparing Obama to George W. Bush, who notoriously looked into Vladimir Putin's soul and liked what he saw. "I could have told him - he was a KGB agent. By definition he doesn't have a soul," Clinton joked. She may have been echoing John McCain's somewhat less personal shot at Putin: "I looked into his eyes and saw three letters: a K, a G and a B." Guess Barack's crazy idea of trying to work with the Russians to secure those loose nukes in the old Soviet Union so they don't fall into the hands of terrorists is another case of him peddling "false hopes." You do realize that Putin is a tyrant who kills off those who oppose him, and is bringing Russia closer and closer back to a USSR type state. You do realize that Hillary campaigns on a promise to end "cowboy diplomacy" and restore America's respect around the world? I'm not sure that making a flippant joke about Putin having "no soul" will go over that well in the part of the world where he has 60-70 percent approval ratings
B DeBrun		#506	[-]
Posts: 15301 (01/06/08 10:18 PM) More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	memyselfandi wrote: And given how depressed most Republicans are about the current GOP field, I could see a lot of Republicans staying home while blacks turn out in record numbers. GOP voters are far more likely to turn out and vote election after election than do their Dem counterparts. Dems meanwhile got record Dem turnouts in the lost 2 elections and still could not defeat Bush. Maybe their luck will change if they actually nominate an electable candidate for once.
sunflower101		#507	[-]
Posts: 31 (01/06/08 10:35 PM) More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	loveangelc wrote: Like someone said, the only thing everyone is talking about is how shrill and angry shrillary came off last night. this woman could not be elected in a general election. too bad many emocrats are too dumb for the most part to realize that. i am a republican and i even hope the democrats realize that. i won't vote for a democrat, but i don't want hillary to have any chance of the presidency.
sunflower101		#508	[-]
Posts: 32 (01/06/08 10:37 PM) More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Angela in WI wrote: wtf is anyone taking Bill Richardson seriously? He made NO sense and when he DID it was because he took what someone else had said and just mixed up the words a little. He kept repeating himself and when he talks it looks like he's chewing on his face. Dear lord I think I'd rather have Hilary as president than him. haven't you figured out what he is doing? he is running for the vp position. that is why people like him stay in it. he thinks if he shows enough support he will get picked.
B DeBrun		#509	[-]
Posts: 15304 (01/06/08 10:39 PM) More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Major polls show Obama with 12-14% leads over Hillary. Huge. But NH doesn't end campaigns. Michigan and SC followed by Florida I'm more interested in.
sunflower101		#510	[-]
Posts: 33 (01/06/08 10:40 PM) More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Urethra Franklin wrote: Even if you like Hilary better than you like Obama, and I really can't imagine why anyone would, the facts remain: a) as many have said, he's far more electable - Hilary's would have to hope that the Republicans put up someone like Romney, who's even more hated than she is b) Obama has proven that he can get bipartisan support for his proposals. I think we all know that even if Hilary managed to win a general election, it would be four years of even more partisanship than usual. The Republicans aren't going to support Hilary on ANYTHING. well it does help that obama claims he wants to work with republicans, and not goes around talking how she wants to take them on. obama unlike hillary doesn't sound like she hates the very ground every republican walks on that is a big help.
sunflower101		#511	[-]
Posts: 34 (01/06/08 10:46 PM) More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	lilnubber wrote: John Edwards re Nataline Sarkysian: NEVADA, IOWA -- John Edwards tonight cited the case of a 17-year-old California girl who died after her insurance company refused coverage on a liver transplant to save her life as a call to action to change the current system of healthcare in America. Nataline Sarkysian died last night at UCLA Medical Center after complications arose from a bone marrow transplant to treat her leukemia. Her insurance provider, CIGNA Healthcare, first denied the potentially lifesaving transplant, but relented after a loud public protest and outrage. By that time, though, Sarkysian passed away before the procedure could be performed. "Are you telling me that we're gonna sit at a table and negotiate with those people?" asked a visibly angered Edwards, challenging the health care companies. "We're gonna take their power away and we're not gonna have this kind of problem again." Edwards also told the audience of about a hundred people at the Score Pavillion in Nevada, Iowa, that it will take a fighter (i.e. him) - and not a negotiator (ii.e. Obama) - to take on large insurance companies like CIGNA. "Anybody who thinks that we don't have a fight in front of us is living in Never-Never Land," he said. Link now how exactly is edwards going to do all of that, when acting like that won't get a lot of people on his side at all? pretty sure no republicans will go for that.
sunflower101		#512	[-]
Posts: 35 (01/06/08 10:57 PM) More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	B DeBrun wrote: memyselfandi wrote: And given how depressed most Republicans are about the current GOP field, I could see a lot of Republicans staying home while blacks turn out in record numbers. GOP voters are far more likely to turn out and vote election after election than do their Dem counterparts. Dems meanwhile got record Dem turnouts in the lost 2 elections and still could not defeat Bush. Maybe their luck will change if they actually nominate an electable candidate for once. what do you except from a party that thought kerry was electable. it is like they conviently forgot all the crap that kerry said in the 60s. i think some of the democratic leadership hang out with too many liberal elits that don't think like the rest of the country.
merkyl		#513	[-]
Posts: 47108 (01/07/08 5:25 AM) Registered loser More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I'll echo the 'little guy' sentiment. You know what, sometimes the "little guy" isn't in the right. I know it goes against your liberal bumper sticker philosophy but it's true.
lilnubber		#514	[-]
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victalac		#515	[-]
Posts: 628 (01/07/08 6:54 AM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	White folk will trip over themselves to support Obama. so much so that Oprah will back off on her support. He wants to kick ass in Iraq, and that's all anyone knows about him. No garbage to lug around. Plus, he doesn't feel the need to rhyme his sentences, or speak with the "'cadence" that most black politicians do. So he is not scary to whites.
UrbanCenter		#516	[-]
Posts: 9341 (01/07/08 7:03 AM) Registered User More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Somebody gave Tancredo 250 bucks?
loveangelc		#517	[-]
Posts: 110 (01/07/08 7:04 AM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	B DeBrun wrote: Major polls show Obama with 12-14% leads over Hillary. Huge. But NH doesn't end campaigns. Michigan and SC followed by Florida I'm more interested in. Michigan and Florida's delegates won't count in the Democratic race. Michigan is being punished for trying to move their primary up. SC is the last contest before super Tuesday.
loveangelc		#518	[-]
Posts: 111 (01/07/08 7:14 AM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	victalac wrote: White folk will trip over themselves to support Obama. so much so that Oprah will back off on her support. He wants to kick ass in Iraq, and that's all anyone knows about him. No garbage to lug around. Plus, he doesn't feel the need to rhyme his sentences, or speak with the "'cadence" that most black politicians do. So he is not scary to whites. I agree. Republican's love the fact that, as Bill Bennet said, "he's not an Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson type." I've read many Republicans talking about how if Obama is elected Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson go out of relevance. Also, it could help that he's bi-racial and raised by white grandparents. He's not "too black." Last Edited By: loveangelc 01/07/08 7:16 AM. Edited 1 times.
PassionatePiscesMan		#519	[-]
Posts: 3433 (01/07/08 7:34 AM) Registered User More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	" Major polls show Obama with 12-14% leads over Hillary. " The wicked witch is dead. Be sure to drive a stake thru her heart.
StarrEise		#520	[-]
Posts: 5748 (01/07/08 8:22 AM) More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	victalac wrote: Plus, he doesn't feel the need to rhyme his sentences, or speak with the "'cadence" that most black politicians do. So he is not scary to whites. What? Are you nuts? I've seen him in some speeches where he looks like he's channeling MLK and Jesse Jackson, not to mention when he gave a shout out to "brotha Deval Patrick" during a visit to New Hampsire.

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