I have the right to disagree with you. Dre's decision to ask for the car is a stupid thing that need to be on the list and Brian Heidek's "failed" puzzle challenge, giving Ted the win, is NOT stupid.
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Sigh.
I have the right to disagree with you. Dre's decision to ask for the car is a stupid thing that need to be on the list and Brian Heidek's "failed" puzzle challenge, giving Ted the win, is NOT stupid. |
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James, 42nd place? 42nd place?! *shakes head*See above. Amanda voting out Denise a top 20 stupid move (something known only in hindsight as a bad move), yet Denise settling for fourth place not anywhere on the list?I don't think it's something that we just know is a bad move in hindsight. I understand why she thought the jury would be sympathetic to Denise, but I don't think it was difficult to see that Todd was the bigger threat even as a viewer, and Amanda, having lived with these people for so long, should have had much greater insights about how the jury would vote than the viewers anyway. I mean, she's obviously a smart girl and smart player for the most part, so she should have been sizing the jurors up since day 1. It's hard for me to understand how she would miscalculate their preferences so badly. Anyway, the bottom line, like I said, is that she had 3 options and she clearly picked the worst of the 3. As far as Denise not flipping sides, like I said previously, I don't really see what she did as being a stupid decision. The absolute best thing for her to do would have been to flip sides and voted off Todd, then flip back and vote off PG and Eric. But the unfortunate fact for us as viewers is that 95% of the people on the show would never be so creative as to do something like that, so I don't really see her a being particularly stupid for not thinking of it. I don't think that by doing what she was doing that was settling for 4th place either. I think she figured that there was a good chance that Todd would be voted off at Final 4 and that scenario, and the the jury vote between her and Amanda and Courtney, would likely be her best chance of actually winning the game. And even if she didn't think about who she would to best against in a jury vote, I'm sure she at least thought about the possibility of Todd being voting at Final 4. And if she really thought she had no chance with Todd and Amanda, then I'm sure she would have switched. It's not that she was giving up or something. She really thought she had a chance at Final 3 with them, and I think it's understandable for her to have thought that. |
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Denise not risking her ass in a 1in3 purple rock at the F6 was not a stupid decision.
Denise letting James be booted and relegating herself to 4th place without an IC win was a stupid decision. |
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Quiddity wrote: I TOTALLY AGREE! Can we stop being retarded here and just drop Jaime from the list. Yes, it was kinda funny if you didn't like her but she played every card she could and really had nothing to lose. She was a good player unlike that COMPLETE MORON James... The fact that she's higher up on the list than him is just ridiculous. |
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AnomyBC |
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I TOTALLY AGREE!I like Jaime. As of a few days ago, I even have her favorited on Facebook. And I don't think she was a horrible player or an idiot. I just think believe that one thing she did was unbelievably, mindbogglingly stupid, which it clearly was. I'm going to move James much higher on up on the list though, so you should all be happy about that : ) |
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I have the right to disagree with you. Dre's decision to ask for the car is a stupid thing that need to be on the list and Brian Heidek's "failed" puzzle challenge, giving Ted the win, is NOT stupid.Dre's decision to enter into that agreement with Yau-Man IS on the list. And I've debated this a thousand times, but Brian Heidik clearly did not lose that challenge on purpose. If he wanted to lose, he wouldn't have worked so hard to get ahead of everyone else, and he wouldn't have been pissed at Ted afterwards. That whole theory has never made even the slightest bit of sense. |
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AnomyBC |
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Denise letting James be booted and relegating herself to 4th place without an IC win was a stupid decision.How did it hurt her to let James be booted? And what could she have done about it anyway? |
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dhealy2003 |
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50. Danni Boatwright argues a pretty convincing case for Steph in her jury speech, and speaks little of her own deservingness.I don't think this was dumb at all. Different juries have different motivations for voting for people. This jury was obviously a very bitter one, and Danni did great by capitalizing on it, and reminding everyone how Steph screwed them royally. Great play on Danni's part. It helped her get a 6-1 victory. Not to mention Danni was very smart in admitting that Rafe would be the person she'd remove because he's gonna vote for Steph. People from other seasons haven't been that smart. (See Ethan naming Brandon for the same question, and in turn, losing his vote. This comes the SAME day that he says "I think I will get the guys votes and Kim will get the girls. Brandon is the one that I am up in the air on." LOL! At least Kim was smart enough to name Big Tom, an obvious vote for Ethan.) |
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dhealy2003 |
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AnomyBC wrote: Yeah, I think this was more dumb on Erik and Peih-Gee's part for not TELLING James to play his idol.
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I don't think that Jamie's false idol play should be counted on this list because it wasn't a game altering stupid move. The votes had already
been cast, no matter what she did she still would have gotten voted out, her playing the fake idol did not effect her game at all.
And I still disagree about PG telling James to play the idol. James didn't like PG and didn't trust her, so he probably would have gone straight to Todd and Amanda, who would tell James that she's lying and then they all change their votes to PG and she's gone. Plus after that he would of played the idol out of paranoia, which means that any chance for PG and Erik to counter that plan is dead. |
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dhealy2003 |
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^ I was thinking more in line with telling him as soon as Jeff asks if anyone wants to play the Idol. Then Peih-Gee could just yell out "James, play the
idol. Your whole alliance just voted for you." He might not believe it, but it is sure to create a HUGE wedge of doubt in his mind. Especially since he
didn't even know that she knew about it. And it wouldn't have hurt Peih-Gee's position in the tribe at all. I don't know. That's what I
would have done anyway.
But I think it is okay for Jaime's fake idol to make the list just because it made her look stupid, even if it didn't effect the game. And what makes it more stupid is that she has since said that she knew it wasn't a real idol. Then why the heck would you voluntarily make yourself look like a retard?! I think it should stay. But I agree that James not playing his idol wasn't all that dumb. You've got to have trust in the game. If everyone had voted him out the episode before that, and he still didn't play his idol, he would still be called stupid. Or if he played his idol at the final seven and didn't get voted off, he would've been called stupid. James trusted people, which isn't that stupid. It was kinda smart for him to save the idols for the last two times he could use them.
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People from other seasons haven't been that smart. Heck, people from her own season weren't that smart! Stephenie said "Wow, I don't know! Um, Bobby Jon because he was the first member of the jury?!" What a dumbass answer. Not only completely blew Cindy's question, but had the potential to piss BJ off too (although there's no chance in hell he was voting for her). |
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finishthemoff |
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Actually, Bobby Jon would have bote for her, but Stephanie was a serious hyrocrite to pick Bobby Jon since they are both returnee. The very fact that StephMe
was cruel to Lydia shocked Bobby Jon so much that he choose NOT give StephMe the benefit of doubt. That is a common knowledge among jurors.
Sorry, but BC, your list need a serious revision. I will trust Craig, Wyldawg or Beatle to make much better, organized list. |
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Quiddity |
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Yeah, I know about the Lydia thing. I meant that there was no chance in hell that Stephenie simply saying Judd instead of him was going to effect his jury
vote. While it had the "potential" to piss him off had he been undecided, it certainly didn't end up being a factor in his vote. Still a
completely dumbass move though. On the list of which jurors should Stephenie not use as the answer, I'd probably put BJ at #2, behind only Rafe. Made no
sense whatsoever to say his name. @_@
Maybe Quid ought to put together his own "stupidest moves ever" list... |
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It wouldn't have been a purple rock tiebreaker to see if Denise went, it would have been fire starting--as it has been for 8 seasons now. |
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dhealy2003 wrote: Even if James played the idol, it would be a tie between Todd and PG with 1 vote. Why would PG risk herself like that? |
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dhealy2003 |
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^ Well, if she had decided to do this, then she could let Erik know the plan so that both of them would definitely vote for Todd.
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Yeah, but I was reffering to after the votes were cast.
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45. Todd Herzog allows James Clement to keep both immunity idols, instead of insisting in their original agreement that James would give the second
idol to Todd if he found it.
From the ToddOwnage thread: "Why did you let James have both immunity idols? Why didn't you tell him that if he found the other one he had to give you one back? " Todd's Answer: "didnt know it was same at zhan hu. we made a deal we were sharing the idols that wasnt shown" |
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grodney wrote: So if Todd asked for an idol, James would have given it to him? Or would he have kept it? I need answers! |
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