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mfrimley |
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Mario, would you have played on the superfan tribe if they had asked you?
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tullfan2 |
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But in All-Stars, it just seemed to me that he had an agenda. He didn't just want to win All-Stars, he wanted to "in the words of Jonny Fairplay" rape All-Stars. He wanted to make as many of these "Survivor legends" look as bad as he could, because he wanted them humiliated on national TV. And once I figured out he was going out of his way to destroy people, I couldn't root for him. I mean, seriously. He didn't just blindside people. He mocked them afterwards. He mocked Big Tom's family. He went out of his way to embarrass Cesternino. He made up names for Ethan and mocked his popularity on a regular basis. He laughed about what he did to Lex. And that wasn't winning. That was just rubbing it in their faces. That was a guy who has a nasty side when he's winning, and I'll never respect that. That's like a football team running up the score when they're already up 30-0.That's exactly why he is the greatest villain in Survivor history (you didn't mention what he did to Colby or Alicia). In drama shows, viewers are supposed to hate the villains and not necessarally find them entertaining. I didn't find Mariano to be lovable in Marquesas. His confessional in episode 4, in Marquesas, where he assesses his Rotu tribemates was the nastiest confessional that anyone ever gave at that time. His engineering of the ouster of Hunter was a spiteful ego boost which made no sense strategically. I coudn't stand him in Marquesas and I hated him even more in All Stars. The only reason that viewers might support him was that John was just as bad. |
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SenseiKreese |
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Mario, would you have played on the superfan tribe if they had asked you? No. I'm really not that much into the show anymore. The last season I taped and even saved was Guatemala. |
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taigark |
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BrokenLust wrote: Is that going descending or ascending? |
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Dictatorship |
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Clearly it's from 1-15.
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Dr Will Hatch two point oh |
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Why have you lost interest sensei?
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Us Kids Know |
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I really need to stop looking at TWoP, it just enrages me. From the China finale recap:
"Jeff insists that this was "a very good season of Survivor," which I disagree with slightly, since it's my least favorite season ever." Seriously, what the fuck are these people smoking? China is the worst season ever? And Jed is the most electrifying castaway we've ever seen. Keep in mind that Cook Islands and Fiji are generally considered to be at or near the top over there. |
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XtremeInnovator420 |
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Any place that lists Fiji as one of the top 2 or 3 seasons instantly loses all credibility in my opinion.
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RavuRules |
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1. Pearl Islands
2. Cook Islands 3. China 4. ASS 5. Amazon 6. Vanuatu 7. Palau 8. Guatemala 9. Africa 10. Fiji 11. Exile Island 12. Marquesas 13. Thailand 14. Outback 15. Borneo |
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beatles20147 |
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The worst thing about TWoP loving CI/Fiji and hating China is that SEG probably thinks they're more in touch with what the average fans think.
Hopefully the fact that China was the first season since Palau that had higher ratings than the previous season will speak louder than the terrible tastes of TWoPpers. |
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ptcruisn56 |
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Not sure how mainstream Entertainment Weekly is, but they just had a poll in their magazine (I think with Tom Banks and Julia Roberts on the cover) of the
favorite winner and Yul was the top choice.
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RavuRules |
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It didn't according to Wikipedia beatles. But it's finale and reunion numbers were higher than Fiji's though if that's what you meant. But
the question is why those ratings were higher. It could be anything like location, smaller cast size, no race quota, etc. and a combination of some or all of
those things. China is 1 of the best locations and themes Survivor has had period, so the improved finale ratings for China might be indicative of that versus
all the other stuff which didn't change ratings in previous seasons (and actually a 20 person cast Palau ruins that specific argument). That or people
really disliked Fiji
Not sure how mainstream Entertainment Weekly is, but they just had a poll in their magazine (I think with Tom Banks and Julia Roberts on the cover) of the favorite winner and Yul was the top choice. ROFL |
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colleenlover |
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I'd have to go with the first four seasons simply because of my personal excitement while watching them -and there was still the sense that everyone was
covering them and the exposure.
5. Pearl Islands -terrific season that was overshadowed for me by waiting for All-stars. But just first rate -the only winner that I was rooting for.
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survivorjordancontestant |
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didn't China's premiere rate higher than Fiji's finale? It's obviously because "China" has a much bigger pull, commercially, than
some random island that not a lot of people know a lot about other than it's one of them tropical islands somewhere. China is a more marquee name than say
Fiji or Cook Islands.
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ptcruisn56 |
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I'm pretty sure Fiji isn't some random island, probably more heard of then Marquesas.
RR laughing at me or of the results? |
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Dr Will Hatch two point oh |
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beatles20147 wrote: china has alot of flaws. It seems the whole second half was based on whether James would use his HII. Also, Im just not that into catty, sarcastic but not that witty girlfest that dominated this season. Janelle from BB is the exception,but most of the time I dont find those types of people intriguing enough to watch |
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RavuRules |
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didn't China's premiere rate higher than Fiji's finale? It's obviously because "China" has a much bigger pull, commercially, than some random island that not a lot of people know a lot about other than it's one of them tropical islands somewhere. China is a more marquee name than say Fiji or Cook Islands. According to Wikipedia, the China premiere of 15.35 million still lagged behind Fiji's 16.68 million premiere survivorjordancontestant http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivor_%28U.S._TV_series%29 I'm pretty sure Fiji isn't some random island, probably more heard of then Marquesas. X RR laughing at me or of the results? Not laughing at you at all. Just how Sucks opinion is like diametrically opposite of the general public |
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XtremeInnovator420 |
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Y'know, I wouldn't be basing facts off of a site like Wikipedia that can be edited by just about everyone. Not saying your numbers ARE wrong, just
saying it's completely possible that they COULD be wrong.
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RavuRules |
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I know XI. Note that I didn't make any larger generalizations based off this. I stated my source is all. The others didn't even mention their
sources. I think wikipedia tends to be a lot more reliable than other internet ones in any case
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