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Osten Carty |
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Cayt101 |
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I would have to say Fairplay ~
Hey Osten ;-) |
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Jack Tourette |
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Osten Carty wrote: Best Final 2 Ever. |
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Dr Will Hatch two point oh |
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WylDawg wrote: 1. Shane isn't a villain 2. You don't know that, and if he did fake it, so what? 3. Very true, but I can't hold it against him the way I do Twatwaffle because of how bizzare and hilarious his speech was! |
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paques |
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The biggest villian was Boston Rob. He have all of the criteria to be a great villian
1. To be a great villian you have to be in control of the game for a good part of your stay. 2. To be a great villian, people have to be intimidate by you. A good exemple of this is the way Rupert act in front of Fairplay (who's not a great villian) compare to Rob M. Rupert could talk thrash to Fairplay and scream at him, he was not intimidate at all by Fairplay, but he was afraid of Boston Rob. 3. To be a great villian, you have to talk bad about people in confessionnals or with other tribemates. And it's not because you are a Wacko that you are a villian (ex : shane Dave) Here's the criteria of some of the people enumerate as villian Richard Hatch : 1 Jerri : 3 Rob C : 1-3 Fairplay : 1 (even if it's really debatable) 3 Boston Rob : 1-2-3 Amy : 1-2 Shane : 2 (well only for Courtney and Danielle) 3 Try with other Survivors and you will see that Boston Rob is basically the only one with the 1-2-3 combination |
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Baulder |
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I disagree with your first criteria, being in control of the game doesn't make you a great villain, its having the potential to mess up the "good
guys" game plan. Being in control of the game just makes you good at survivor as well as being a villain.
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Us Kids Know |
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Jack Tourette wrote: |
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gibson97 |
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John C. ...and the Rotu 4
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paques |
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That's not what I have said, being in control of the game doesn't make you a great villain. But all great villian were in control of the game at a moment or another. |
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Madduxfan315 |
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John Raymond from Thailand is my favorite villan! After all, who could forget that water joke. Who knows what else he could have done!
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panurge46 |
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Villains are, by definition, the scoundrels in the story, the rivals of the "hero".
In Pearl Island, Fairplay was definitely the villain who destroyed the Hero's game only to see one of his allies avenge his
"death".
In Vanuatu, Ami was portrayed as the villain and her downfall paved the way to Chris' victory. There were no real villains in Palau's story.
In Exile Island, we had a complex story. The Casayans, under the bad influence of Shane, were the original villains, but then it changed when Terry started dealing with Shane. It turned Terry into the new villain with Aras standing in his way and vanquishing him in the end. In Cook Islands, Jonathan was the villain who betrayed everyone. The season of racial divide got its resolution when both sides agreed Jonathan had to go. Fiji was the season of villains: Mookie who was the first bully deciding who should go. He was quickly joined by the short tempered Rocky who went mercilessly after Anthony. Lisi and Stacy were depicted as villains. Lisi by the way she talked about Gary and Stacy by her treatment of Dreamz during the coffee incident and the look on her face during the challenge where they had to knock opponents off a platform. After every Moto victory, we saw Stacy with a fierce grin on her face, the look of a rabid fan at a wrestling match. When Yau Man beat her, we never saw any scene of comfort from her tribe, heard no "good effort" even if she had faced a man. The 4 Horsemen were the end season villains with Dreamz alternating being villain and good guy...sometimes in the same scene! In China, we had Jean Robert and Jaime as villains. Peih Gee also had a momentary role as a villainess
but the editors were quick to dump the blame on Jaime so that they could redeem Peih Gee and show her resolve at the end.
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PrettyGoodYear1988 |
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Wow... Then in your opinion, Fiji had eight villains. No wonder the season gets a bad rap. That much negativity and bitterness doesn't really make for
fun television, though I'll admit Rocky and Lisi were fun to watch sometimes, and Stacy got faced in the F9 reward challenge, which was satisfying.
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panurge46 |
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Well, I count Fiji as having 7 villains since Mookie was the villain early in Ravu, (when he went after Jessica and Erika) but he was also part of the 4
Horsemen. A story needs a villain and I think it isn't a coincidence that many consider the Outback as being boring after Jerri left or that Palau,
especially in its second act, was dull. Also, having Cook Islands being a season seen through the eyes of its biggest villain, Jonathan, makes it strange and
could partly explain why so many hate it.
Were there too many villains in Fiji? I don't know because I'm one that found it a good, average season.
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Lamb Chop is Hot |
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There were no real villains in Palau's story I would say out of everyone that Gregg was probably the closest to a villain during Palau because he was the one who convinced everyone to vote out Stephenie. |
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True. And Gregg also planned on going after Tom but I don't think it made him a real villain. At that late stage, those moves were "necessary" for Gregg to win and I don't recall any scene of Gregg laughing at all the trouble he would cause. He was more the "Dumb Player" who wanted to stick to the plan. The discussion on villains is also part of my "Characters and their Roles" thread: http://survivorsucks.yuku.com/topic/21668?page=1
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Francois40 |
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I would say out of everyone that Gregg was probably the closest to a villain during Palau because he was the one who convinced everyone to vote out Stephenie.Yes but Gregg had a pleasant personality AND was part of the showmance that season; the first is not villainous at all, and the second pretty much defines him in another role. |
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Mister Plum |
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My favorite villain would have to be Peih Gee and Shii Ann.
Shii Ann is entertainingly annoying and Peih Gee is a great villain coz she worked hard to go far and she's not afraid of James. |
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Bobby Jon goes apeshit |
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Since when are Peih Gee and Shii Ann villains?!
Anyway, this isn't even a contest.
Best. Villain. By far.
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paques |
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I stick to my point, by my creteria Boston Rob is the real villian. And there's maybe 10 to 12 real villian in all survivor history.
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