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Posts: 12743 (10/25/07 8:35 PM) Registered user |
The bigger mistake was telling everyone on the tribe he has the idol.
WTF??? I understand he needed to motivate them, but they would've tried their best regardless. Now everyone knows he has which makes him #1 target. |
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Kirblar |
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Posts: 4682 (10/25/07 8:35 PM) Registered user |
Here's the thing, the Fiji rules HII is only dangerous if kept a secret. If people know about it, it is greatly weakened, since you can just blindside
someone to eliminate them. (Or trick them into wasting it when they don't need to, like at the F9 in Fiji.)
Todd's plan definitely doesn't belong on the list. The bigger mistake was telling everyone on the tribe he has the idol.Why was that a mistake? It makes everyone trust Todd more while making James' 2nd HII weaker. |
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Posts: 3781 (10/25/07 8:41 PM) Registered user |
Or they could just vote James out without him being aware of it and he doesn't use either of the immunity idols which will either take them out of the
game, or rehide them.
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Phukdis |
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Posts: 373 (10/25/07 8:45 PM) Registered User |
That's funny, I never saw anywhere that Todd gave the idol to James, I did see him tell James that the other camp has one probably in the same place. Todd
did say that he gave it to James, but he also said he loves Courtney, and probably says that to all of the others too.
Now for really stupid shit, Courtney saying she is on the outside with the rest of the alliance there to try to get JR gone has to rank up there in stupidity. Courtney, why not save time and just say " Don't trust my bony ass at all". Goodbye on the next available opportunity, bitch! |
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Posts: 334 (10/25/07 8:56 PM) |
I think you can probably add about five things from Todd to the list after this last episode.
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Coachocd |
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Posts: 6764 (10/27/07 11:10 AM) MESS member |
43. Amber Brkich argues a pretty convincing case for Rob in her jury speech, speaks little of her own deservingness, and names "luck" as the biggest factor that got her to the Final 2. ---------------- Actually, this wasn't so dumb if you hear the post-show interviews. Amber said that she heard people around camp say, "Why don't the final 2 admit that luck was a major part of what got them where they are?" She was at least trying to woo the jury. Also, her task was easier. All she had to do was be the lesser of two evils to Robfather. So while her jury performance was underwhelming, naming "luck" as the biggest factor was not a stupid choice. Robfather not giving any thought to the jury vote and basically nailing his own coffin as he went along backstabbing his way into the final 2 -- now THAT was stupid. It reminds of the S4 moment when he said, "Does it say "stupid" on my forehead?" Getting rid of Rob C. meant that he was the smartest one on Chapera (after Amber). Yuck. Lucky for him, Mogo Mogo outwitted themselves.
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WylDawg |
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Posts: 12757 (10/27/07 11:12 AM) Registered user |
^ Yeah it's kind of a double-edged sword. If you say luck, people will think you're underserving in a game perspective. If you say skill, people will
find it arrogant, especially bitter jurors. So with the All-stars jury in mind, going with the luck card might've been the better option.
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Coachocd |
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Posts: 6765 (10/27/07 11:14 AM) MESS member |
RealityTVWhore wrote: I fell it love with Kathy at that moment too. It humanized her. It was a survival situation. It showed she had moxie. It may have been embarrassing at some level. However, embarrassing and stupid aren't the same thing. |
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James Barber |
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Posts: 10239 (10/27/07 3:35 PM) Registered User |
Todd telling most of the team about the idol made more sense than only telling James. If Courtney had been completely left out of the plan, then given how
isolated she already felt, that might have been enough to push her even further away from her alliance. Denise also now feels more like a part of their group.
If Todd had kept it from them, they would have found out at some point and blamed him for not telling them everything.
I thought he threw this challenge, since he had already won so much else. I looked a few times and didn't see the other tribe from Thailand throwing a challenge to get rid of Jed. Was that on the list? It was a big mistake. Then although they never said it, I thought they threw the E5 immunity to get rid of Stephanie. |
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MickXII |
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Posts: 486 (10/27/07 7:00 PM) Registered User |
I like posts like this, brings back the moments I've forgotten about. Good thread.
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Posts: 434 (10/27/07 8:53 PM) Registered user |
Great List!!!!
The only change I would make is to eliminate Mike Skupin and Add Shii-Ann being fooled by the fake merge. She had egg all over her face. |
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Posts: 6766 (10/27/07 11:55 PM) MESS member |
Ginawantsme wrote: Shii Ann should not be added. She was deliberately tricked by the producers. I don't consider her move "stupid". As the lowest person on
the totem pole in her tribe, she was making deals with the other tribe. Her move was smart based on precedence.
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Kirblar |
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Posts: 4715 (10/28/07 1:11 AM) Registered user |
Yeah, Shii Ann made the absolute right move given the information she had available to her. She was next out regardless.
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Posts: 1438 (10/29/07 11:13 AM) Registered user |
Shii Ann should not be added. She was deliberately tricked by the producers. I don't consider her move "stupid".The stupid part was NOT allying with the Chuay Guan, it was broadcasting this fact openly to Sook Jai, which served her no purpose whatsoever. |
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WylDawg |
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Posts: 12773 (10/29/07 11:21 AM) Registered user |
Shii Ann should not be added. She was deliberately tricked by the producers. I don't consider her move "stupid". As the lowest person on the totem pole in her tribe, she was making deals with the other tribe. Her move was smart based on precedence.
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Posts: 6701 (10/30/07 1:14 PM) Registered user |
Flushing out Jed instead of considerably weaker Penny, Erin, Shi Ann and even Ken is like voting out Ozzy over Sundra, Becky, and even Yul.
Jed was pretty much a wrecking crew until they threw a challenge to get rid of a challenge god. |
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Posts: 423 (10/30/07 1:47 PM) Registered user |
And let's say for argument's sake that they would've told them right from the beginning of the season that they would merge at 8. Sook Jai went to tribal council twice after the fake merge. I'm pretty damn sure ShiiAnn wouldn't have been one of the 3 Sook Jais remaining.Yeah, she was next to go even if she hadn't tried to join Chuay Gahn I think another stupid move was in Pearl Islands when Andrew out and out told Lill how unfair the Outcast twist was and implying that she didn't deserve to be there. If she wasn't considering jumping ship to Drake already, she was definately going to after that. |
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Posts: 7 (10/30/07 3:31 PM) |
There was a moment that came to my mind is when Stephenie cast a vote on Fairplay out of spite, leading to Rupert's demise. Unless this has been proven to
be deliberate on her part to get rid of Rupert, it was quite a dumb move.
Also, Jaimie gigling like a silly girl because she threw out a challenge, which led them to confess it at TC should be included IMO.
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Posts: 642 (10/30/07 3:35 PM) Registered user |
You mean Sandra?
And Rupert had 5 votes out of 8 anyway. |
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Posts: 8 (10/30/07 3:38 PM) |
Yes, sorrry, Sandra. Are you sure about the 5/8 vote? Seems to me that vote was the deciding factor. I may be wrong though.
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