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Posts: 10213 (09/28/07 3:58 PM) Registered user |
There will always be the naysayers. Those who just hate everything, those that hate everything a lot of people like just to be contrary bitches and then there
are people with no taste. Ignore them and your life will be much happier.
Angela's Run shirt had me in stitches. |
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Posts: 11850 (09/28/07 4:03 PM) Registered user |
I need to watch the episode again, but in the first half did Andy not talk or open his mouth at all? At one point Michael said that one of the symptoms of
rabies was lockjaw, and I was sure they were going to do something with that, maybe even hinting at an affair between Meredith and Andy.
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NiceToAnimals |
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Posts: 6162 (09/28/07 4:05 PM) Registered User |
And the phrase "jump the shark" has jumped the shark.
Seriously. |
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Posts: 1744 (09/28/07 4:06 PM) Registered User |
All of the Spinkles stuff was gold, actually any time Angela shows emotion I laugh.
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Lovejonze |
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Posts: 3531 (09/28/07 4:23 PM) Registered User |
I think the episode was great. I think that some people didn't like it as much because it was long, so I could see where people may think it was dragging
in places. Alot of it has to do with your state of mind. I can never get enough Office, I wish it was on for two hours. But I like the little stuff, like
Phyllis correcting Michael. Just all of the odd people make this interesting to me and I don't need to laugh out loud for 30 minutes straight. Sometimes
I just smile.
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NiceToAnimals |
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Posts: 6163 (09/28/07 5:09 PM) Registered User |
Exactly. Little things like Michael saying Meredith's son won't go to college and remembering back to the "Bring Your Daughter to Work Day"
episode and him calling Dwight "Mr. Poop".
Or the fact that Bob Vance wore a Vance Refrigeration t-shirt when he was running the race. For every over-the-top Michael moment there are many other moments that make you chuckle or just smile. |
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Mrs Krista Boogie |
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Posts: 923 (09/28/07 5:40 PM) |
Lovejonze wrote: Totally agree. This is the only premiere episode of any show (okay, maybe 30 Rock, but in a different way) I've looked forward to this year. I actually
cared about how they dealt with Jim & Pam and I really like how they did it. I think there's enough relationship issues on the show to allow PB & J
to have some happiness for awhile and concentrate on Dwight/Angela and Michal/Jan and their disfunction.
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MargueritaBlendedNoSalt |
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Posts: 961 (09/28/07 5:59 PM) Registered user |
I think Michael was pretty toned compared to last year. There were many times last year where I thought he just was too over the top and dragged the bit on ad
naseum. I loved watching Pam and Jim holding hands. They both looked so happy. All's right in the world for that one moment in time.
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yukugajoob |
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Posts: 121 (09/28/07 6:01 PM) |
They ran out of ideas around S2 and each episode's premise has become increasingly far-fetched. This show used to be great when it was a microcosm of people everyone knows. Now it's just an assortment of zany, non-linear gags:Wow! I totally agree! I was doing some research about television the other day and would you believe that back in the 50s they had an idea to do a comedy about a Cuban bandleader and his ditzy redheaded wife who was always causing trouble and doing zany, over the top stuff. SO GLAD that never made it on the air! And then in the 60s some other asshat had an idea about a city boy and a faux-or-not Hungarian princess buying a run down farm and trying to make a go of it. It had people treating pigs like people and a girl carpenter named Ralph and was just a tired, silly show. I don't think that ever got any air time either. Phew! And then in the 70s they were going to do a show about an AM radio station and they had a script written where they were going to do a promotional stunt for Thanksgiving where they would toss live turkeys out of a helicopter and they would all fall to their death. TOTALLY NOT FUNNY!!!! Glad someone had the sense to not put THAT tripe on the air! I mean, REALLY, shouldn't comedies be believable and real and about people we all know? Why should we let go and just have fun for a half hour or an hour or so? TV should mimic life and be real and all that. The Office is dead to me until it gets more real. Dead. To. Me. 
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Mrs Krista Boogie |
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Posts: 924 (09/28/07 6:06 PM) |
^^^^^^^
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Kitten Gloves |
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Posts: 7613 (09/28/07 6:43 PM) Registered User |
yukugajoob, thank you!
heh, I caught a I Love Lucy eppy just this week and it still had me laughing out loud at her antics. Just, wow! |
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bubbybear |
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Posts: 2381 (09/28/07 7:32 PM) Registered User |
I think that some people didn't like it as much because it was long, so I could see where people may think it was dragging in places.I enjoyed it, but it did feel like 30 minutes worth of material stretched into an hour. Oh, well. And agreeance, Lucy never gets old. |
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pizza harold |
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Posts: 259 (09/28/07 9:34 PM) Registered User |
Wow! I totally agree! Interesting that you view Green Acres as a high water mark of television, but, to each his own. WKRP, Lucy and any other great shows used the viewer's suspension of disbelief judiciously, but didn't abuse it. Would a dimwitted station manager "think turkeys can fly" and toss them out of a helicopter for a promo? Probably not, but within the rules of logic established on the show it fit. Michael Scott organizing a 5000 mile fun run to cure rabies is an abuse of the viewer's suspension of disbelief. Carry on with your lovefest, but people aren't going to be watching The Office Season 4 in 30 years if they keep this bullshit up. But I'm looking forward to next week's show when Oscar's ex-girlfriend shows up at the office unexpectedly and drops of his precocious 7 year old daughter (that he didn't know he had because they split up when he came out right after she was conceived). His girlfriend is off on a trip to Europe and her nanny quit unexpectedly, so Oscar has to take care of the child for a week! And it just so happens the upper brass of Dunder Mifflin are visiting the Scranton branch, so the gang has to work together to keep the young'n out of sight....and out of trouble! A HIGH-larious subplot develops when Michael and Dwight, who think children really are delivered by storks, try to "stork-proof" the office to keep the storks from bringing more children! But, OMG OMG OMG, Jim looks at the camera knowingly, because HE know's where babies come from! You won't want to miss one zany second of....The Office!
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Posts: 2267 (09/28/07 9:46 PM) Registered User |
Also note that Bob Vance is a Unitarian.
I thought it dragged a bit and that it could've been a lot better as a mere supersized episode instead of an hour-long episode. That said, it was still quite funny and I'm glad to have it back |
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Lovejonze |
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Posts: 3538 (09/28/07 10:11 PM) Registered User |
Hey, I liked it when Jim looked at the camera when Creed was drilling Meredith about her meds.
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Posts: 122 (09/28/07 10:26 PM) |
Hey, pizza harry:
I find it more interesting that you obviously view Green Acres with derision. You probably think that the writers giving Arnold human traits and the characters (except for Oliver) being accepting of it was an "abuse of the viewer's suspension of disbelief." Yet, the viewing public loved it enough for it to run 6 years! A very respectable run for any series, much less one with such a ridiculous cast of characters and writers who were presumptuous enough to feed their viewers such crap week after week, continually going outside the logic they had previously established on the show. And let's see, what is it, 30+ years later and it's still in syndication in reruns. Seasons 1 thru 3 are out on DVD and Season 4 is soon to be released. I'm guessing, however, that 30 years ago someone somewhere was saying, "Carry on with your lovefest, but people aren't going to be watching Green Acres Season 4 in 30 years if they keep this bullshit up." And that person would be wrong, now wouldn't they? Hope you're still around in 30 years to enjoy the syndicated reruns of The Office Season 4 Now with Added Bullshit! edirted: typos
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Posts: 19665 (09/28/07 10:41 PM) Gadabout |
Those of us who feel the show literally gets better with each passing episode don't feel the need to have our disbelief suspended. The show is getting
zanier and arguably more preposterous (an argument with which I disagree), but it's still grounded in its own reality and still playing within the
boundaries of its own rules. It's not selling out, it's not resorting to gimmicks, it's just playing itself out naturally of its own accord. The
comedy is in the characters and how they respond to situations and how they bounce off each other, and frankly it doesn't matter where the situations come
from. Family Guy is horribly written, it's just cultural references strung together with a lazy excuse for a plot, but it's one of the funniest
programs on tv; one simply has to accept its idiocy and not let it offend them. Same with The Office. They're not trying to insult our intelligence,
they're just trying to make us laugh.
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Posts: 12343 (09/28/07 11:35 PM) Registered user |
Works for me.
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Posts: 758 (09/28/07 11:45 PM) |
look at the 4th:
some more fun: 
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kitty white |
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Posts: 6457 (09/28/07 11:56 PM) Registered User |
pizza harold wrote:i don't agree entirely with ph's comments about The Simpsons but as far as the Office, he nailed it, as far as I'm concerned. I'm rather frustrated with the turn of events for this show and occasionally it becomes uncomfortable to watch - and not in the way intended. I feel like the writers are dumbing it down to the point where it's pandering to the same people who watch {insert shitty sitcome here.} Yet people seem to place the Office on a higher level I just don't feel it's at. Whereas Arrested Development could do dumb gags alongside brilliant satire, I feel the people in charge of The Office underestimate the audience a lot of the time and rely on dumb gags alongside even dumber storylines. There are still glimmers here and there, enough for me to continue watching, but just with seriously lower expectations. and I'm not saying the show has to be realistic to be funny, but its as though the writers or producers or whoever can't make up their mind about certain things, and the inconsistencies are frustrating. on one hand, the concept of the show is a fly on the wall doc about the average american office, but on the other hand, they take stereotypes of people and exaggerate them to such a bizarre level it's disconcerting. especially when they then try to throw in the kitchen sink romance between Jim and Pam. As if that aspect of the show and those characters are allowed to be normal, but everything else is crazy people doing wacky things. I just wish the show didn't pander so much. Anyway, i'm glad there's at least a couple other people here with similar opinions.
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