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SuitSnob wrote:

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Sorry if someone else already came up with this, but today it occured to me: You think there was a purposeful correlation between the hobos having a code and the codes that the homos had to use back then to feel each other out in public?

Absolutely, along with the fact that Don's "father" didn't give the Hobo a quarter, but Don gave his "Boho" (bohemian) girl $2500.

GlamsSlam wrote:

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Some economic info to substantiate the fact that not everyone benefits in life.. there are the have and the have nots.. and we all know that being a Master of the Universe it helps being a white man.. but as the world grows not everyone's lot in life is good... and while I am not speaking solely of myself (although as a woman I always am) but as an activist and feminist I have always been concerned about others.. and this was in today's NY Times.. as when I state my opinion I like to use yes my experiences, those of others and information that is gleaned from source facts.... and I respect someone who responds to that argument in the same way...

Even if the economy does bounce back from the mortgage crisis, almost no economist is expecting sustained monthly gains of 200,000 jobs anytime soon. In fact, the housing slump was already causing job and wage growth to weaken before stocks dropped last month. In both June and July, the economy added fewer than 70,000 jobs and in August, it lost 4,000, the first loss in four years.

Going forward, the debate is between those who see a continued slowdown and those who see a recession. In either case, wages will probably keep rising for a while because it takes time for a weakening job market to affect paychecks. Sometime soon, though, most workers can probably say goodbye to healthy raises.

By now, the reasons that middle-class pay increases are so hard to come by will sound familiar. Technology lets computers do jobs that people once did, and it also allows jobs to be done in low-wage countries on the other side of the globe. As a result, workers, save for the most skilled, have less bargaining power. These trends can't be reversed.

What's disappointing is that the political response to the changes has been so limp. If anything, government has probably made the situation worse.

Just look at schools. Every successive generation over the last century has been more educated than the previous one, measured by the average level of educational attainment. But the gains for men have stopped in recent decades, and for women they have slowed to a crawl, Mr. Katz notes.

The United States, the world's leader in producing college graduates 25 years ago, has fallen behind South Korea, Norway and the Netherlands. Our lead over Japan, Australia, England and Canada has shrunk.

The big issue that's always really stood out to me with looking at rates like that is that Schools often seem to be obsessed with pushing people towards whitecollar jobs and college, regardless if it's actually the correct thing given that person's individual personality/abilities/intelligence. If every kid in America went to college, we'd have an awful lot of construction workers with degrees.

GlamsSlam wrote:

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Well sadly only about 25% of Americans do go to college and a large majority of the working poor/minorities (as it levels off with income) drop out because they do not have the financial resources/access or support systems in place to complete school. And what is wrong with having a higher education to advance yourself in your trade? Construction workers can go into Management and make a substantial salary combing both white/blue collar but to get into those "management" positions companies want educated workforce. So they hire a guy who never came up through the ranks and went to management school instead.. so unfair and frustrating.

I think if we are to compete and offer something to the world be it trade or whatever we should have the right and ability to educate ourselves how we want and still pursue the options we want.. so what if I have an MBA and I like being a plumber at least I can manage my business, speak to my clients well and have opportunities available should I choose to change careers.. which is happening on a much higher scale.

Education should not be for the elite nor only one type of career. And we should all be paid what is fair and equitable and frankly in line with the economic realities of a community... in Washington State the median home price (Seattle) is 500K and that would mean the average worker is making 57 bucks an hour to afford said home.. well that is not the case for teachers, nurses and other "educated" professions and they are the ones working and serving the community. Even education does not mean salary and sadly these are also female dominated ones... although that too is thankfully changing

Oh, absolutely. It's just that schools (at least where I grew up, in northern VA) seem to be working with a "One size fits all" mentality that doesn't really prepare people for what they'll be facing once out of high school.

mikeonfilm wrote:

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I read through this entire thread looking for pics of Christina Hendrick's and all I got were some blurry ass shots.

I'm very disappointed.

You do realize the sexual orientation of 80% of the male posters on this board, right?