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Oowatanite wrote:

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Moviegirl, Zach did make a mistake in not getting rid of Dani at F5. But if his plan was to get rid of a D at F4, he should have hedged his bets until the POV comp was over. If D or D wins POV, then Zach says "great, we all make F3". If Z or J wins POV, then Zach makes his move, and his hands are clean if Jameka wins POV on her own to save herself. Zach would have been F2 with no dirty hands if J wins POV, as J or D take Zach to F2, with the remaining D voting for Zach to win over J.

Instead, Zach showed his intentions too needlessly early and had to undergo the unsurprising rants from Dick and lose both D votes in a F2 against J. That is why Zach made a HUGE mistake.










THF, I agree that Dick is an asshole. But part of it was strategy too.

Yeah but what I'm asking, is what is the difference? How does Dick/Daniele knowing Zach's true intentions change anyone's game in the final three? Him being able to say "yay, we all made the final 3!" isnt going to have ANY effect on D/D's decision to evict him if/when one of them gets the last HoH so what's the point of pretense?

Here's how it breaks down.

Zach wins HoH:

He puts up Dick/Jameka or Daniele/Jameka. No one is surprised. Jameka thinks "well you never liked me anyway so what do you care?" and Dick/Daniele think "well you had no choice either way so whatever, but we'll win the Veto to keep it from Jameka and vote her ass out"

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He puts up Dick/Daniele. Dick/Daniele throw some tantrums in front and behind his back. They dont understand why he'd betray him blah blah blah. Meanwhile Jameka's like "wow, thanks for giving me a chance, maybe I'll return the favor if I make it through this week" and D/D think "well we better win the Veto and vote Jameka's ass out."

Either way, Zach's still in the final three, either against Jameka and a Donato or against both Donatos. In the latter scenario, they're both gunning for his eviction where as in the former scenario, he's probably locked the final two (Jameka would take him over a donato and the donatos would take him over Jameka).

So either way he sliced it, D/D were going to fight for the Veto. Only by NOT nominating Jameka, he was able to win her over a little bit so that if she stayed, she'd consider taking him to final 2 and if she left, she'd consider supporting him if he makes it to the final 2.

Pissing the Donatos off had absolutely zero effect on any outcome. There was no (logical) reason not to put both of them up and try to get one of them out.

TobaccoRhoda wrote:

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And Dick's rants are just part of his "strategy", as mean as it is.

If I have to read this drivel one more time, I think my head is going to explode. Dick's rants TO THE CAMERA late at night when HE IS ALONE about snapping necks and other violent imagery, are not for strategy, you complete morons, they are a reflection of his vile personality.

What part of his friend's saying, 'he is known for this behavior in his real life' do you not get???????


I feel better now.

One of the down-sides to trying to debate BB here at Sucks and at other sites is that there are so many people who blindly worship or blindly hate certain houseguests so much that they genuinely don't see the what they don't want to see and instead, keep repeating the same half-truths and partial-facts over and over again. It's annoying but it happens.