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omzig		#961	[-]
Posts: 805 (09/07/07 11:08 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	RickyJ1 wrote: omzig wrote: If Zach said he will put up D/D, he will. He has nothing to lose and everything to gain. POV is what matters, but if he works with Jameka, she will keep her deal and he will be closer to the final 2. He has no shot if it is D/D/Z in the final 3 unless he wins HOH. If Jameka stays, he has a 2 out of 3 chance to get to the final 2, which is better than 1 out of 3. If Jameka stays and keeps her word to take him to the final 2 then he has a 100% chance to make it to the final 2. Dick would take him over Jameka for sure. If he or Jameka wins POV then Zack is in the final 2 guaranteed. It just a question of who will be with him, Dick or Jameka. He prefers Dick of course but if he doesn't have a choice then 2nd is better than nothing. Zack is trying his best to make sure he a least gets $50,000 out of his time on the show. Smart move. Thanks for clarifying, Ricky...yes...if J/Z win the veto and kick Danielle out, Zack is guaranteed to go to the final 2.
Kelegyrl		#962	[-]
Posts: 124 (09/07/07 11:10 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Looks like Zack will put up D&D but he better realize that if Danielle wins, she's taking herself off. Jameka's going up and Danielle is voting Jameka out. Then it's two against one, Donato's against Zack.
Will		#963	[-]
Posts: 23395 (09/07/07 11:12 AM) Not a Registered User anymore Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	RickyJ1 wrote: omzig wrote: If Zach said he will put up D/D, he will. He has nothing to lose and everything to gain. POV is what matters, but if he works with Jameka, she will keep her deal and he will be closer to the final 2. He has no shot if it is D/D/Z in the final 3 unless he wins HOH. If Jameka stays, he has a 2 out of 3 chance to get to the final 2, which is better than 1 out of 3. If Jameka stays and keeps her word to take him to the final 2 then he has a 100% chance to make it to the final 2. Dick would take him over Jameka for sure. If he or Jameka wins POV then Zack is in the final 2 guaranteed. It just a question of who will be with him, Dick or Jameka. He prefers Dick of course but if he doesn't have a choice then 2nd is better than nothing. Zack is trying his best to make sure he a least gets $50,000 out of his time on the show. Smart move. If you think Dick would even try for the HOH when he knows Jameka AND Zack would take him.
omzig		#964	[-]
Posts: 807 (09/07/07 11:16 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Kelegyrl wrote: Looks like Zack will put up D&D but he better realize that if Danielle wins, she's taking herself off. Jameka's going up and Danielle is voting Jameka out. Then it's two against one, Donato's against Zack. Is this a revelation? The Donatos will never take Zach over each other
Lobsters		#965	[-]
Posts: 5172 (09/07/07 11:25 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Zack seems to be making the right moves.....BUT, he's still gotta get past the Donatos.
Lobsters		#966	[-]
Posts: 5173 (09/07/07 11:25 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	SHIT A TRISCUIT! Last Edited By: Lobsters 09/07/07 11:35 AM. Edited 1 times.
Kirblar		#967	[-]
Posts: 3823 (09/07/07 11:26 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Kelegyrl wrote: Looks like Zack will put up D&D but he better realize that if Danielle wins, she's taking herself off. Jameka's going up and Danielle is voting Jameka out. Then it's two against one, Donato's against Zack. How is that any different from nominating J/D? The Veto is all that matters, and Zach's making the correct nominations (even if it is tipping his hand way too early).
diewinelle		#968	[-]
Posts: 3330 (09/07/07 11:31 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Utopian wrote: I just read the live feed reports and I have to say that Jameka is totally clueless. Daniele told her stuff about what's been going on in the house and Jameka is just incredulous. It's as if Jameka had earplugs and a blindfold on the whole time. seriously. it will be like someone being shaken awake after 70 days in the house, being told what went on, and then WINNING the game. jameka's an idiot. she spent all her time either nestled in bed with amber next to her, patting each other on the back about being the 'good people', or gossiping with jessica. she didn't interact with anyone outside 'the group', and that's the only reason she's not hated. nobody KNEW her. she's done nothing in this fucking game. worst winner ever if it comes down to her.
Will		#969	[-]
Posts: 23400 (09/07/07 11:36 AM) Not a Registered User anymore Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	He'd be smarter to put up J/D because they won't gun as hard (they're still gonna gone for it either way) as they would if they were BOTH nominated.
Oowatanite		#970	[-]
Posts: 3893 (09/07/07 11:45 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Will wrote: He'd be smarter to put up J/D because they won't gun as hard (they're still gonna gone for it either way) as they would if they were BOTH nominated. Word. Even if Zach is targetting Dani, he should nominate Jameka and Dani, and D/D would be less concerned if Zach wins veto. Zach should not target D/D so blatantly and so soon by nominating them right off the bat. Zack is trying his best to make sure he a least gets $50,000 out of his time on the show. Smart move. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In the words of Christa & Jay on Pirate(Suck) Master "Go BIG or go HOME!" Agreed. If Zach is only concerned with his best chance at 2nd place money then he is a fool and a moron. Once you get this far in the game, you gotta go for the win. Then again, dumb Zach would probably stop at $1000 on the Power of Ten show.
urrout		#971	[-]
Posts: 1477 (09/07/07 11:48 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Will wrote: He'd be smarter to put up J/D because they won't gun as hard (they're still gonna gone for it either way) as they would if they were BOTH nominated. It shouldn't matter who was on the block. They still need to keep Jameka from winning the veto whether both are on the block or only one of them. Putting them both on the block tips D\D that Zack is no longer with them so they need to keep him from winning it too in case they were stupid enough to think Zach winning veto would be 100% OK for them. They should at least have some doubt about him. The big question is with both on the block, would it shake them up or would it cause them to focus more.
diewinelle		#972	[-]
Posts: 3333 (09/07/07 11:49 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	i didn't see anything in updates about it----did d/d even talk to zach about nominations last night?
Kirblar		#973	[-]
Posts: 3825 (09/07/07 11:51 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Oowatanite wrote: Will wrote: He'd be smarter to put up J/D because they won't gun as hard (they're still gonna gone for it either way) as they would if they were BOTH nominated. Word. Even if Zach is targetting Dani, he should nominate Jameka and Dani, and D/D would be less concerned if Zach wins veto. Zach should not target D/D so blatantly and so soon by nominating them right off the bat. Zack is trying his best to make sure he a least gets $50,000 out of his time on the show. Smart move. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In the words of Christa & Jay on Pirate(Suck) Master "Go BIG or go HOME!" Agreed. If Zach is only concerned with his best chance at 2nd place money then he is a fool and a moron. Once you get this far in the game, you gotta go for the win. Then again, dumb Zach would probably stop at $1000 on the Power of Ten show. I think Zach's definitely watched the show before and has been using Dr. Will's "I don't care about winning" misdirection strategy from All-Stars. He wants to get to the F2 with Dick.
actor31		#974	[-]
Posts: 527 (09/07/07 11:58 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Will wrote: True. If D/D wins the veto, the DD haters will scream that it's another terrible winner year. If Z/J win the veto, the people against boring house contestants will scream that it's another terrible winner year. Very observant point. The important point for viewers however, is which outome is more likely to give us a satisfying result. Getting Dani evicted before F2 should provide us with a wonderful show. The level of whining, crying, screaming and self-pitying will be fabulous. In addition, if the producers time things properly, we may even get to see and hear Dani telling her father that she hates him, that she's always hated him and that she never wants anything more to do with him. She may tell him to never call her, to never write her, to never try and contact her in any way whatsoever. Even better, we might be treated to a fight between the two in which Dick fights back calling her an ungrateful brat after all that he has done for her. She might then tell him that she never asked him for anything and that he is the worst father in the world and she just wants him to fuck off out of her life and never wants to see him again. I think it will take all of that to salvage this miserable season. Unfortunately, there is very little that will likely be enjoyed from Zak or Jam being evicted. Zak doesn't have the brains to realize no one wants anything to do with him and has never wanted anything to do with him. Jameka doesn't understand that no one wants anything to do with her because she is so far up her own ass to be able to ever be able to communicate with anyone else. The only other events that would make for satisfying viewing would be if either D/D were to fuck over the other and get them evicted so that they would advance to F2. I can't imagine how that could happen. But maybe if they had a huge ugly fight, it might lead to that. Last Edited By: actor31 09/07/07 12:05 PM. Edited 1 times.
shoeless rye		#975	[-]
Posts: 4332 (09/07/07 11:59 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Zach is making the right move nominating both Donato's if he has a F2 agreement with Jameka. As has been said if a Donato is booted, he guarentees himself F2 as the remaining Donato isn't going to bring Jameka. If both Donato's remain, Zach has to win F3HOH, however if one Donato goes home, he'll be taken to the F2 by both Jameka(due to her promise) and the remaining Donato. It all comes down to the veto comp - nobody is going to beat Zach in a physical comp either. However Zach isn't going to beat Jameka F2, while he might have a chance against Dick and Daniele. Do you play for second place or go for the gusto? Dick and Daniele should tell him that if they are booted this week he loses both of their jury votes even against Jameka. Dustin, Amber, Jessica, Dick, Daniele vote for Jameka means she wins. Also remind him that he'll beat them in the physical leg of the F3 HOH comp, guarenteeing him to be in the F3 HOH final leg and should he win it, he guarentees himself a win no matter which Donato he brings. Does Zach's agreement with Jameka cover who he wants booted if both Donato's stay on the block? Would Jameka keep Daniele over Dick considering she could beat both anyways? And both won two HOH's? Zach's plan needs Dick to stay in the house because he can definitely beat Dick, however it could be a closer vote against Daniele. Of course Zach could just be covering his ass should Jameka have won veto herself, because then she would have probably had designs on bringing a Donato F2. HOH is just immunity, veto is the power this week. However as has been said, this puts both Donato's on edge for the veto comp - before they could have played to make sure Jameka didn't win, now they have to play to win themselves because Zach wants them out as well. Last Edited By: shoeless rye 09/07/07 12:03 PM. Edited 1 times.
Will		#976	[-]
Posts: 23401 (09/07/07 12:00 PM) Not a Registered User anymore Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	actor31 wrote: Will wrote: True. If D/D wins the veto, the DD haters will scream that it's another terrible winner year. If Z/J win the veto, the people against boring house contestants will scream that it's another terrible winner year. Very observant point. The important point for viewers however, is which outome is more likely to give us a satisfying result. Getting Dani evicted before F2 should provide us with a wonderful show. The level of whining, crying, screaming and self-pitying will be fabulous. In addition, if the producers time things properly, we may even get to see and hear Dani telling her father that she hates him, that she's always hated him and that she never wants anything more to do with him. She may tell him to never call her, to never write her, to never try and contact her in any way whatsoever. Even better, we might be treated to a fight between the two in which Dick fights back calling her an ungrateful brat after all that he has done for her. She might then tell him that she never asked him for anything and that he is the worst father in the world and she just wants him to fuck off out of her life and never wants to see him again. I think it will take all of that to salvage this miserable season. Unfortunately, there is very little that will likely be enjoyed from Zak or Jam being evicted. Zak doesn't have the brains to realize no one wants anything to do with him and has never wanted anything to do with him. Jameka doesn't understand that no one wants anything to do with her because she is so far up her own ass to be able to ever be able to communicate with anyone else. But the final result would be a Zack and Jameka winner and THAT would be MOST unenjoyable!
Oowatanite		#977	[-]
Posts: 3894 (09/07/07 12:03 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Kirblar wrote: I think Zach's definitely watched the show before and has been using Dr. Will's "I don't care about winning" misdirection strategy from All-Stars. He wants to get to the F2 with Dick. If Zach is using the "misdirection strategy" and is really gunning for the big win, then he must target Jameka now. He has ZERO chance to win against her in F2. He has a reasonable chance to beat D or D in F2. It doesn't matter that his chances to reach F2 are improved with Dani out at F4, his chances to win $500,000 is better with Jameka out at F4. Obviously, once we know Zach's target at F4, we will know if his goal is 2nd place or 1st place.
The Bostonian Godfather		#978	[-]
Posts: 6681 (09/07/07 12:04 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	For you (Will). Zach should make good will with Jamesus to ensure that even if she doesn't get to the end and he does, she will get her buddies to vote for him.. since he has been a good person and has totally redeemed himself.. yadda yadda. Get rid of Daniele. Pray that Jameka doesn't win F3 HOH.
diewinelle		#979	[-]
Posts: 3335 (09/07/07 12:05 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	can you imagine watching z/j as F2? she could read the Bible to him and he could really get into his spiritual re-birth. he could sit at her feet and ask her to explain the entire New Testament to him. oh boy! yuck.
FilmNerdJamie		#980	[-]
Posts: 1165 (09/07/07 12:06 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	The Bostonian Godfather wrote: For you (Will). Zach should make good will with Jamesus to ensure that even if she doesn't get to the end and he does, she will get her buddies to vote for him.. since he has been a good person and has totally redeemed himself.. yadda yadda. Get rid of Daniele. Pray that Jameka doesn't win F3 HOH. I can't imagine anyone voting for D/D unless they're both F2.

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