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Surprisingly and call me crazy, but Eric would not vote for Jen. He bashed out the door, and at least Dick left the room. That and the fact that she said if
either D/D were in the F2 she would give them her vote, only because she felt they actually played the game.
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In interviews, Jen seems to think that Eric bashing her out the door was strategy so other players think he is on bad terms with the jury. I think she
threatened to vote for a Donato to discourage people from dragging them to F2. She might vote Dani but never Dick. He went too far.
Intended F3 if LNC3 holds: Dick - with Dani and Eric Dani - with Dick and Eric Eric - with Jess and Dick Jess - with Eric and Dick
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Sasuke11 |
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craig wrote: You mean Jen went to far....admit it she's a baby and was mad she lost.
oh and don't tell me Dick took his nom hard, he stated RIGHT away he would do whatever he could to keep his daughter in the game
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quietsurvivorfan |
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Wednesday August 29, 2007,
Title: The Eve of Amber's Eviction Wow, a lot has happened this week. We found out Amber beat Dani in the P of 10 faceoff at the beginning and lost her $10,000 winnings on a pit bull question. Actually in her defense, she didn't know that football player put that whole controversy in the headlines and probably temporarily boosted America's opinions about banning pit bulls as pets. She guessed low and only walked away with $1000. Dani did NOT get to see Nick and didn't even know he was there until they showed the cast the episode a couple of days ago. Dani started to cry and other houseguests thought it was because Amber beat her. Dani has now said on the feeds that she thinks her boyfriend has dumped her but she doesn't seem to mind, she wants to see where this thing with Nick will go. She also told probably Amber, forgot who, that she needs to stay near her Grandmother because her grandmother has had 2 liver transplants or something like that. She said she lived with her since she was 11 months old. Dani has been extremely lippy with Dick and he has begun to snap back at her. She needs a spanking. Not the pervy kind, but the kind necessary to keep kids from becoming self centered brats. However, I still LIKE her. So sue me. Zach has begun to get out of the Jessica induced stupor. Being put up by Jessica and watching Eric obviously getting VERY CLOSE to Jessica has snapped him out of his delusion that he could pull Jessica away from Erica into the game and become a pair with him. Zach told Dick last night and again today that he wants to win HOH and put up Jameka and probably Jessica and indicated that Eric would be the veto replacement if needed. At this point I don't think he cares which of the 3 would leave. For my sake I hope it is Jameka, I hate her game play. It remains to be seen though to see if being finally nominated will scare him into committing to play the game. Let's talk about Jameka's game. Other than crying to gangsta god and making a spectacle of herself for the BB shows, her only game is to drip acid on other houseguests about the people the other houseguests appear close to. SHe has dripped a very strong Acid about Eric to Jessica this week. She did NOTHING in this game other than go against her alliance to use the veto on Jen because she "promised" and GOD had her win the veto, AND give up 5 HOHs, thus becoming dead weight to her alliance, in a veto she DIDN'T NEED TO WIN!!! Stupid bitch. Last night was feed gold. Jameka and Amber up in the HOH finally figured out that Eric is against them. They think he is manipulating Jessica into doing his bidding and tricking Jessica in the game. They spent 2 HOURS trying to convince Jessica she has been played like a fool and she needs to dump Eric and go with them. It never OCCURRED to them that Jessica is a willing participant in this game move. They also realized that they have no POWER to determine the outcome this week AND next week they don't have the numbers. Here is what these braniacs have discovered. Presuming Amber DOES get voted out on Thursday, then Jessica ONLY has Jameka and if those 2 go up (jameka is convinced everyone in the house will do that), then even if one wins veto, the others in the house have the numbers to determine who goes home. No shit sherlock She just doesn't get it that there is NO MORE GROUP. She
told Amber tonight that she plans to confront Eric about staying loyal to the group and his vote will determine his loyalty.
First of all, AP came back as Amber. There is no doubt she is going home. Amber has promised EVERYONE everything to stay in the house and presuming they had not compared notes, Amber could not move forward in the game without going back on her word to SOMEONE and of course she has NEVER LIED in the game. This deluded fuck sure takes some happy pills in the DR because I don't
think we have ever had a BB player this out of touch with reality. Amber is now clinging to the hope that the vote will be a tie and Jessica will keep her.
Jameka and Amber were even laughing at Zach tonite being so clueless he was going home. It was priceless. Amber is very indignant that people are playing the
game to be greedy. She also just said GOD WON'T ALLOW ZACH TO STAY THIS WEEK!!! (stabbing a fork in my ear!!!)
I can NOT wait until Amber and Jameka leave the house. I hate them both. They have played BAD games, thinking gangsta god will ensure a "good people" victory. What sanctimonious fuckwits. I can NOT stand people like that. Their shit stinks just like the rest of us. They are violating a very basic command of the Bible and that is "judge not lest thou shalt be judged". Fucking assholes (yea, I am JUDGING HERE). I will do a face plant on the floor and beg forgiveness after I post this.
Jessica and Eric began kissing this week. The chemistry just doesn't seem to be there. I can NOT tell what is really up here. I think it is a case of 9 weeks of being shut away and suddenly being very bored. BB is having Eric's ex girlfriend in a clip on the show Thursday. They are airing those previews now. Should be interesting to see if this is another blatant attempt to sway the AP votes depending upon what we see this week. We are expecting a fast forward or short HOH week this week. They usually do that around Labor Day weekend. I hope we don't have feed blackouts, but if we do, that is ok, I am out of town this weekend. Right now, it is looking more and more like there will be a Final Four of J/E/D/D. The only way I see that changing is if Zach wins an HOH this time or next time. Stay tuned. (I can NOT wait, only 17 hours before I have an Amber Free Feed). |
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couldn't agree more with your assessment of jameka and amber. NO GAME!! jameka will go down in history as making some of the dumbest moves ever in this
game---the veto from "God" and giving up her chance at 5 HOH's. she must NOT be rewarded for that by moving further in the game or GOD FORBID,
making F2.
amber is beneath contempt. she's lied, made deals, sworn on her poor child's life, cried, told every sordid detail of her pathetic life, and may be the most self-absorbed human being i've ever seen. under some circumstances, i'd say that's hiding an inferiority complex, but with her, that's not the case. she truly thinks she is the 'chosen one' and this game is HERS, damn it. these other assholes are just throwing up obstacles and getting in the way of her rightful place as the winner of this game. i loathe and despise her, and she can't leave soon enough or painfully enough to suit me. |
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No one left has played a good game. That's one of the reasons I don't care about who stays and who goes. They have all made huge mistakes, although only two of them had to be saved by the DR. Of everyone left, Daniele has probably played the best game. I would like to see her win. I also would like to see a D/D F2, if they are in the F4 with Jessica and Eric. Eric will already get money from AP, he doesn't need any more considering that he is playing for D/D to win, not because of any chance he has of his own. Jess is a terrible player, she doesn't deserve F2 unless it's some kind of Erika situation where the jury calls her out. |
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I don't think this jury will call out Jessica unless AMber and Jameka get very bitter on their way out of the door and pull Dustin over to the dark side.
I don't know what kind of influence Eric would have with the jury if jessica and daniele are the final 2. I honestly won't predict that winner.
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BB is having Eric's ex girlfriend in a clip on the show Thursday. They are airing those previews now. Should be interesting to see if this is another blatant attempt to sway the AP votes depending upon what we see this week.I bet you're right. I also am wondering if the producers are setting up the downfall of Eric/Jess at F4. To get on her good side, remember when Dani was HOH and Eric went on & on about his "difficult situation with his girlfriend" outside the house? He was really trying to mirror her situation w/ Chris & Nick in an attempt to bond. WELL, I think Dani is going to use this info to turn Jess against Eric (a la Erika with Janelle). Yes, I know Ambitchus has been trying to do this exact thing. But of all her abundant good qualities, cough, subtlety is not one of them. One or two penetrating words from Dani might do the trick. |
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I don't think this jury will call out Jessica unless AMber and Jameka get very bitter on their way out of the door and pull Dustin over to the dark side.I think they might. She lied to Dustin and then betrayed him for no good reason (unless she actually thinks she has a great shot against a Donato in the F2 -- I don't). Jen has said she thinks Jess is a fake. If Zach is on the jury I think he might also call her out. She has burned some bridges the past few weeks. QSF, I must say that I admire you being able to still churn out your thoughts about this season. It's hard for me to come up with anything to say at this point, I end up repeating myself because it's like Groundhog Day in that house now, and the people left are as charismatic as Andy Williams. I honestly wish they could speed the season up and get to the F2 (or F3, if the rumors are true that this season will have an F3) as soon as they can. |
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Sasuke11 |
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Julie said to Dustin he was the 1st member of the Jury of 7 if I remember correctly (thank god) even survivor is ridding itself of the F3 Jury with China this
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quietsurvivorfan |
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JB, the game changes with each eviction. The power shifts and power vacuums are created. That is what makes BB different from Survivor. Survivor is just
plain numbers thuggery. Those who have the numbers can plow through that game and it is rare that they can get people to shift. Because of the HOH
competition that then puts 2 people up for nominations, it removes those 2 votes and changes the dynamics and the power each and every week. Thus, a fan can
look at the feeds and try to figure out where it is going to go. It is easier to do that further into the game because by about now, we know these people
pretty well. So we can usually figure out they are making moves before their housemates know and we see the feeds so we know what is really going on, rather
than swallow what CBS shovels with every show.
Your disappointment in Jessica's mid game play has been very real here. I really liked Jessica and I do think Eric is a weasel rat. I probably would not like him in real life, either. I would have loved to have seen a strong Jen/Jessica/Daniele secret alliance in this game. It would have blown the doors off the season. But with Jen so "out there" with her self absorption, the female cattiness that happens when 2 chicks are circling the same man (Nick), and Jessica just didn't seem to click with either of them, we didn't get to see this, this year. I am VERY glad the meatheads didn't make it through as a group. I could not have stood another season of the 4 horsemen, even if these guys were more likeable. I don't like how CBS and BB always cast catty asshole queenie gay guys. Marcellous, Beau, Dustin, Joe, the only thing different between those 4 assholes is their looks. I would have liked to have seen more Nick, but Dani was better off without him in the game. I could have done without as much Kail in the game. Her arrogance in the first week in telling Mike they needed to pick who they wanted for the jury in her first week of the show just was way too much. That idiot really thought she was going to roll through the house. I think we could have had a much better season if the God Squad we are still stuck with had never been cast. Give me an April any day over these 2. Many here criticize Dick's game as having NO game. We just haven't seen a strategy like Dick's before. He is defining "over the top" play at an entirely new level. His antics when he was on the block the 2nd time with Daniele were hilarious. We have never seen someone try to get evicted over who they were on the block with, even to the extent that person used the veto on that other person and SURVIVED that week's eviction. I honestly thought he was nuts to try to pull in Jessica and Eric openly to flip the vote in a secret F4 deal. I am astonished he pulled it off. We have not seen something that brilliant done yet. There are too many here that are tripping over Dick's loathesome personal habits and nastiness. I think most of the nastiness was his over the top strategy. The people who can't see past that are saying Dick has no game and the DR saved him. The AP vote helped, but Dick didn't know and still doesn't know about the AP. He has made the season compelling. Everyone so far who has been evicted except for Jen has been completely forgettable. We only hear about Nick because of Daniele's obsession and she has been a major part of the storyline. Jen is STILL being discussed in the house and on the boards. Everyone else evicted? Entirely forgettable. Dustin who??!! I want to see Jameka go next. Then I want to see a final 5 showdown. It will be interesting to see if Zach will impact that game at all by winning an HOH or POV in the next 2 rounds. It will also be interesting to see if Daniele and Jessica decide it is not in their best interests to duke each other out and let their male partner ride their skirts. However, Daniele's situation is different from Eric. She has a DAD in the house she is stuck with and can't stand right now, but has to work with him to make it in the game. Whereas Jessica and Eric have a friendship, perhaps turning into a Showmance, maybe even a real romance happening. However, there is really a basic trust issue where deep down both of them have to worry that the other one playing each other. Jessica just has to think of Erika from last season. However, if their friendship is genuine, I personally would enjoy seeing Jessica and Eric compete on the Amazing Race in the same season as Dani and Nick. I think Dani would be like Flo from Flo and Zach and whine the whole game, but we would get to see the next chapter unfold in their friendship/relationship if it survives next month. Enough pontificating. I have to try to get some sleep, I have to meet with my auditors and CPA for this public offering filing in the afternoon. Peace Out. |
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Everyone else evicted? Entirely forgettable.That's true of pretty much everyone still left in the house apart from Amber, Dick and, only because of the twist, Eric (which would make even Mike memorable). |
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One mean spider |
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Thanks for the recap QSF!
With kiddo's going back to school, it has wrecked my sleeping pattern and I was too tired to look at a computer monitor at all yesterday....
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craig |
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"She did NOTHING in this game other than go against her alliance to use the veto on Jen because she "promised" and GOD had her win the veto, AND
give up 5 HOHs, thus becoming dead weight to her alliance, in a veto she DIDN'T NEED TO WIN!!! Stupid bitch."
I detect severe Donato bias here. Many people in the LNC7 preferred Zach or Nick gone that week, while Jen and Kail were friendly to Jameka. In week 5 she was foolishly trying to protect Eric - Dustin\Amber\Jam will be kicking themselves for ever for going with Eric over Jen\Kail. Dick's reaction to Jen getting vetoed week 4 showed him to be a huge sore loser, He was a baby and was mad she outfoxed him. He viciously berated her which led to Teagate which contributed to the Donatos alienation from the LNC. At that point Dick lost any chance of Jen or Kail voting for him to win.
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craig wrote: it doesn't take bias to see a totally stupid game move. jameka could try for that POV, but putting her own game in jeopardy like that was just plain stupid. the bias here is yours---it's in every post you make. you hate THE DONATOS. i like dick but i'm not a
fanatic about him. and i certainly don't like some of the things he's said. but he's a smart man and i think i'm glad he's still there.
i can't bear daniele, but i give her credit for at least using some strategy, being a very good liar (essential to this game) and a fierce competitor. i
couldn't say she doesn't deserve it if she wins.
so don't lecture me about bias. what jameka did was absolutely idiotic, and there's no excuse for it. i'm talking about the GAME---not
personalities. and that's what you're stuck on.
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quietsurvivorfan |
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I have made no bones about being a big donato fan. I have enjoyed watching their drama on the feeds. I loathe jameka, big time. Donato fans are a minority
here, and it is funny reading all the posts each week where so many keep posting about hoping Dani gets back doored. Even if Zach wins HOH this week, AIN'T
GONNA HAPPEN. His targets are jameka, Jessica and Eric.
Until this week, I was worried Jameka was going to outlast Zach. I didn't see how it wasn't going to happen. Presuming Eric throws HOH again, Zach doesn't win it (either by throwing it or being incompetent, same outcome), so one of the D/D's wins HOH. So they put up Zach and Jameka to keep the agreement. I feared that Eric and Jessica's votes would out do the remaining non HOH Donato. However, with the edits Jameka has been getting, I think America is as sick as Jameka as we are. Particularly if they show her trying to break up Jessica and Eric this week. Some of the lame America voters are voting for this creepy showmance and won't like Jameka poisoning Jessica about Eric. Barring a HUGE surprise, I just don't see any other outcome for the next boot. The GOOD PEOPLE are all taken out with the trash and disposed of into the jury house. (I wish I had a Zippy emoticon here showing someone dusting their hands together )
The next boot after that depends purely on the outcome of the F5 HOH and nominations and whether one of the pairs will pre-emptively pull the trigger and boot the non-zach nomination. However, upon further reflection, let's say J/E wins HOH, nominates Zach/Dani. Dick and the non J/E votes. If they vote a tie, the J/E HOH breaks the tie and that is when we will see if we get a "may the best pair win" face off at the final 4. If Zach has thought about this at ALL, he needs to win this week's HOH, so he can make it further in the game one more round. Then he can't compete for the Final 5 HOH, but would be nominated. To move further in the game, he has to win veto, but would be eligible to compete for final 4 HOH. However, the same holds true now. If he doesn't win HOH this week, he still might be able to slip by because of the Jameka vote, and he would have to win Final 5 HOH or veto to make it to the final 4. Either which way, Zach needs to win an HOH and a veto to make the final 4 or he is gone after Jameka. The final 4 HOH is usually house questions, isn't it? I remember when they had Maggie, Ivette, April and Janelle stepping up or down about questions about the house (step up if the wall in the dining room is yellow, step down if it is orange). Janelle won that HOH. I don't remember what the All Star final 4 HOH was. I don't see Dick and Dani having an advantage over house questions. Both admit they suck at that stuff. They need to be jedi drilling. Dani is hoping for an endurance HOH , but she has to make the final 3 for that to happen and she needs to quit telling people she wants one, or she will get booted even sooner than later.
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True, I hate the Donatos as much as James Barber, but I'm also taking about Gameplay in week 4.
We all have are biases, but don't tell me Jameka was stupid for not doing what Dick or Dick fans or Nickele fans wanted in week 4. Jameka, Dustin, and especially Eric all wanted Zack or Nick gone that week. |
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The reason Jameka played stupid in week 4 is that she gave "her word" to a NON ally about the veto play BEFORE she knew the outcome. Stupid bitch
did not play STRATEGY once this entire game. No strategic thoughts, no strategic actions. Her entire game has been to fucking PRAY, cry and pray, trash
people to try to get them to do things she wants because she can't/didn't win to be in a position of power. Her veto win was an ACCIDENT because Jen
outfoxed everyone (Jen was brilliant at times, and would have been unbeatable if she came into the house a bit older and more mature and less self absorbed).
The this stupid bitch tried to win a veto she DIDN'T NEED TO WIN and gave up 5 HOHs in the process of LOSING that veto AND became dead weight to her
alliance. That in and of itself made it easier for J/E to go with the donato game flip because J/E looked at being stuck with Amber (doesn't win
anything), Jameka (can't win anything to determine game direction such as an HOH to make nominations) and Dustin (who couldn't play for HOH the
upcoming week AND J/E knew that Amber and Jameka were closer to him, than them, thus they were #4 and #5 in that deal).
So Jameka was a major factor in the J/E/D/D alliance birth. Jessica and Eric decided that they wanted to rid the house of the lame players and not be the targets of the only other threats in the house. What makes this even a better play than we usually see in BB is that these 4 have mostly kept this move under wraps. Dick almost blew it by telling Amber that "we are even now" and Amber ran with that comment to Jessica trying to out Eric as having a deal with D/D. She didn't put the rest together and realize there was a fairly firm F4 deal and Jessica was a full participant. If Eric was not constantly reprogramming Jessica, she would have been a casualty in this game because she only had Amber and Jameka and these 2 twits are useless in this game. |
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A Dying Clown wrote: Doubt that! Even with AP I am sure we would not remember Mike!
QSF...thanks so much for all your posts! While I do not always agree with who you like, etc...it is great to be able to read the recap! Keep up the amazing work! |
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I agree, the combo of Jameka giving up 5 HOH and Dustin going on the block made it easily to betray D\A\J without much risk of reprisal. Especially for Eric,
since he knew how Amber felt about him and that he was on the frontlines of the Donato onslaught. Not so good for Jess, who would have had Eric and Dustin as
shields.
But in week 4, the Donatos got owned by Jen and the rest of the LNC. |
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