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Eclipse15 wrote:

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Two big "if's" here.

IF All Stars 2 will not have any winners and IF Amanda is in AS2 (according to Coby), then she doesn't win Survivor: China.

In the past, jurors have voted not for whom they like best, but for whom they think is most deserving.

I'm guessing it will be a close vote between Todd and Amanda.

Eclipse15 wrote:

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If ASS2 has already been filmed (I haven't followed ASS2 at all so I have no idea) then at the time that they filmed it there would have been no winner of China.

VaBeachGuy, you're right that ASS2 has already been filmed. But they couldn't start filming All Stars 2 until after they finished in China. The producers knew who won, before they started filming ASS2.

Now, if you're talking about casting before China ended, they'd have to make sure Amanda wants to be back; and again, they'd have to wait until after the filming of China.

I just want to instill some doubt into what appears to be a foregone conclusion in this forum, that Amanda wins. BlutoDelta facing Antithesys:

That's true, the producers would know what the vote says but technically there is no winner until the season has fully aired and the vote is read at the reunion. Yes, I'm splitting hairs but let's say for a minute that they filmed China. Amanda or Todd was the winner but the season never aired because the show was cancelled. Amanda or Todd would never get their Million Dollar prize because the winner was never announced and the season never aired.

So what I'm saying is that at the time of the filming of ASS2 there was no winner for China so they could at that point tell the Survivors that none of them had won a Million Dollars on Survivor.

I'm not saying that Amanda will or won't win China, but as of this moment in time no one has won China and no one will win China until sometime shortly after 10:00 Pm Eastern time later tonight (Sunday). My feeling is that Amanda will win, but you can never be sure how a jury will vote because we're manipulated by the producers with the way they edit the shows.

Personally I think Survivor jumped the shark when they had the first ASS so haveing ASS2 is just furthering the mistake. Survivor has never been as good as it was from seasons 1-7, seasons 8-15 have been mildly entertaining for the most part but totally forgetable. Someone has posted a list of ASS2 contestants and other than James, Amanda and Johnny Toothless I can't really remamber most of them. I'd almost rather watch re-runs of seasons 1-7 than see another ASS.