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        <![CDATA[ Welcome to Edgic for Survivor 16:  Micronesia - Fans vs Favorites.  (Or as I like to call it,
Half-ASS)


We devote this thread to try and pick the winner (hopefully by or before the merge) by looking at the editing, player by player, and applying logic from past
editing patterns or observations about what we have been shown.


How Edgic Works

Everyone is welcome to participate, so for anyone new who wants to jump on board here is generally how it goes:


After watching each episode posters... ]]>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: S-16 Edgic  (editing and logic)  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">tullfan2 wrote:</strong>
  <hr>
  Frankly, I&#39;m glad that they did away with Fallen Comrades because it was a bunch of crap and eventually became telegraphed enough that it strongly
  contributed to one person, Vecepia, winning because she prepared in advance for it and pretended to care about the people she was with when she didn&#39;t
  really care about many of them. As, Richard Hatch pointed out to Colleen in Borneo, the game of Survivor is... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ To be fair, Amanda IS Eliza&#39;s inferior. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Frankly, I&#39;m glad that they did away with Fallen Comrades because it was a bunch of crap and eventually became telegraphed enough that it strongly
contributed to one person, Vecepia, winning because she prepared in advance for it and pretended to care about the people she was with when she didn&#39;t
really care about many of them.  As, Richard Hatch pointed out to Colleen in Borneo, the game of Survivor is being cognizant of the relationships and bonds
that form between different... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">fat little fingers wrote:</strong>
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  <blockquote>
    ...but I think it was VERY telling and I think that both Alexis and Cirie were pretty devastated by the answers given.
  </blockquote>Lol! TOO telling for the editors&#39; &quot;history-making female f-2&quot;!
  <br>
  <br>
  Thanks for the transcript, <span style="font-weight: bold;">Eliza</span>. Damn, I was pulling for you, before the merge. No one has played the game with more
  heart... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">GretchenIsMyGod wrote:</strong>
  <hr>
  &gt;_&lt;
  <br>
  <br>
  Man I wish they left Eliza&#39;s questions in. I loved Penny&#39;s question, and it&#39;s just like that, except more.
  <br>
  <br>
  I remember when there were rumors that a former female player would take Probst&#39;s hosting gig, and the names &quot;Tina,&quot; &quot;Kathy&quot; and
  &quot;Morasca&quot; swirled about. Frankly I&#39;d just like an excuse for Eliza to be on every... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ &gt;_&lt;
<br>
<br>
Man I wish they left Eliza&#39;s questions in.  I loved Penny&#39;s question, and it&#39;s just like that, except more. 
<br>
<br>
I remember when there were rumors that a former female player would take Probst&#39;s hosting gig, and the names &quot;Tina,&quot; &quot;Kathy&quot; and
&quot;Morasca&quot; swirled about.  Frankly I&#39;d just like an excuse for Eliza to be on every season.
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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <span style="font-weight: bold;">RW</span>:
  <br>
  But as Eliza knows all too well from her first season, all you need to be is &quot;better&quot; than the person that you are sitting beside at the end.
</blockquote>
<br>
.<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/fatlittlefingers/S-China%20Ep9/e6.jpg" alt="image">
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Lol...
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(sigh, I know.  I still stuck with <span style="font-weight: bold;">Vapidmanda</span> in China. Even after this shot was... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">Andy22 wrote:</strong>
  <hr>
  Exactly. They needed to preserve the image of Parvati&#39;s supposedly great social game. The whole final tribal council was based around Amanda being
  clueless as to how she was perceived, and Parvati being deceptive but socially adept.
  <br>
  <br>
  That segment would have made Parvati look really bad.
  <br>
</blockquote>

<p> But as Eliza knows all too well from her first season, all you need to be is... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Exactly.  They needed to preserve the image of Parvati&#39;s supposedly great social game.  The whole final tribal council was based around Amanda being
clueless as to how she was perceived, and Parvati being deceptive but socially adept.
<br>
<br>
That segment would have made Parvati look really bad.
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			<description><![CDATA[ Thanks for sharing that funny story with us, Eliza...  Sorry you didn&#39;t go longer in the game!  :)
<br>
And they probably didn&#39;t want to show Parvati&#39;s unawareness of other people on the jury...  that would make Parvati look bad when they were building up
to her win. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  ...but I think it was VERY telling and I think that both Alexis and Cirie were pretty devastated by the answers given.
</blockquote>Lol!  TOO telling for the editors&#39; &quot;history-making female f-2&quot;!
<br>
<br>
Thanks for the transcript, <span style="font-weight: bold;">Eliza</span>.  Damn, I was pulling for you, before the merge.  No one has played the game with more
heart ,(or attention-span, obviously.)
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			<description><![CDATA[ Wasn&#39;t Amanda a supposed fan of the show to?
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			<description><![CDATA[ Eliza, you should have just asked them to pick a number between 1 and 2.  I&#39;m sure at least one of them would have been able to manage that task. 
<img height="15" src="http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a341/MisterSlippery/icons-anims/lbf.gif" width="15" alt="image">

<p><br>
<br></p>It&#39;s really not surprising that they did so poorly on your questions - look how badly they did on the &quot;Survivor History&quot; challenge. 
<img height="15"... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Hey Edgicians :)
<br>
<br>
What&#39;s the meaning of them leaving out all of my jury questions? I just typed them up and thought you all might want to see them, so here they are!
<br>
<br>
HERE ARE MY FINAL TRIBAL JURY QUESTIONS THAT WERE SUBSEQUENT TO MY SPEECH:
<br>
<br>
After telling them that I didn&#39;t want to vote for either of them, I said: &quot;So, as you may or may not know, Survivor used to have a final challenge
that they called &#39;Fallen Comrades&#39; which took place in... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ (<span style="font-weight: bold;">flf</span> posts from Timbuktu...)
<br>
<br>
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Oo</span>, I just had to respond.
<br>

<blockquote>
  <span style="font-weight: bold;">Eliza</span>, Edgic is designed to pick the winner, not endgamers. There was no Edgic support for Jenn or Darrah or Denise
  or Butch or Natalie or Becky or Cassandra, etc. etc. Courtney&#39;s Edgic support was only from that <strike>dumbass</strike> wonderful <span style="font-weight:... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I&#39;ve been thinking about SPV and tone.
<br>
<br>
I&#39;ve never paid much attention to SPV. As I understood it, the theory was that the winner would have a high incidence of SPV. But I don&#39;t think
sceptic&#39;s tallies support that theory.  It looks more like the quantity of a winner&#39;s SPV parallels the winner&#39;s profile for primary
visibility--that is, it&#39;s not too much and not too little, but rather tends toward the mean.
<br>
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But what about SPV tone? There are no... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <p>For Green Coffee</p>

<blockquote>
  I will just assume that this sort of stuff is inspired by the fact that you are going through a rough time right now, as I have not seen much of this snarky,
  presumptive, condescension from you, OTH. I sort of expect it from some, but rarely from you. I hope the stuff with your kids works out for you in the best
  way possible, as I know that family divisions are hard on all parties involved. Best of luck.
</blockquote>

<p><br>
<br>
You are right.  I... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ You may want to look at the S1 thread that I just created. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I used Warrior&#39;s visibility system and Kelly had enough to have a strong 2 for ep. 2 (and no way is INV). I was thinking that if someone can be that off in
the visibility there, they <span style="text-decoration: underline;">could</span> be off in other areas. I did VF charts for those seasons that didn&#39;t have
their V based on Warrior&#39;s system. Unfortunately, I lost all the excel spreadsheets when my computer crashed a few months ago, so I&#39;m trying to locate
the notebooks... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Why is it every summer someone starts to whine about the S1 ratings? Bored perhaps.
<br>
<br>
I did the S1 ratings (partially as a test case when we moved to the 5 point rating system), I stand by them and KQ blessed them. Unfortunately the S1 thread
got eaten during the great Sucks attack of 2005 (?-IIRC), or I would point you to that thread for the rationale for each of the ratings.
<br>
<br>
In case you hadn&#39;t noticed, not everyone will agree on every rating. Even today there is not... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <span style="font-size: large;"><strong>Welcome to Edgic for Survivor 16:  Micronesia - Fans vs Favorites.</strong></span>  (Or as I like to call it,
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Half-ASS</span>)
<br>
<br>
We devote this thread to try and pick the winner (hopefully by or before the merge) by looking at the editing, player by player, and applying logic from past
editing patterns or observations about what we have been shown.
<br>
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