Family Final Four

Re: Family Final Four

feeds@yuku.com (fat little fingers) — Sun, 05 Oct 2008 21:51:23 GMT

Fang seems terribly dysfunctional. No one will step up to lead, but all tell us how they need to come together.
Crystal wants to be a warrior, while Susie seems to want to be as invisible as possible.

I haven't seen the Sunday promo, but someone thought it looked like a tribe mix-up this week. We knew it was coming, so no surprise.

But this season it may actually help FF4 formation rather than hurt it.

Re: Family Final Four

feeds@yuku.com (Lady V) — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 20:25:48 GMT

FANG
Crystal M (but not very motherly)
Dan S
GC (Danny) S
Ken E/S (less E last ep)
Maddie S
Randy E (more E last ep)
Susie M (also not very motherly)

Either Susie or Crystal should be stepping more solidly into the M role.

KOTA
Ace S (one of those "eldest son" types)
Bob F
Charlie S
Corrine M/D? (can't get clear on her; can hardly remember her between shows)
Kelly D
Marcus S (also not memorable...

Re: Family Final Four

feeds@yuku.com (fat little fingers) — Sun, 28 Sep 2008 00:34:21 GMT

Posting at 1:30 a.m. :P
Glad to see you back Lady V! And glad to see things already under way.

Now if only a twist doesn't blow the families out of the water again.

Bob's definitely Mr.Wonderful Dad.

Fang is so disorganized, I don't know what is happening for parent leadership.

Post again tomorrow.

Re: Family Final Four

feeds@yuku.com (Lady V) — Sat, 27 Sep 2008 00:25:52 GMT

my ratings are on post 876 On Marcus: I could see him try to move into an F role, but he's not there, yet. I'm not sure about Ken--he shows a lot of E qualities (outsider, odd, observer). As for Crystal, I rated her M because of how she's seen by Maddie, and because she justified her pick of Susie as being because Susie is "another mother."

Re: Family Final Four

feeds@yuku.com (Kitty Pryde1) — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 23:38:14 GMT

Nah, he's definitely a son. He's got his followers, but he hasn't really stepped up to lead or anything like that.

Re: Family Final Four

feeds@yuku.com (Dictatorship) — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 22:57:06 GMT

Marcus seems somehow like a father/son mix to me.

Re: Family Final Four

feeds@yuku.com (Kitty Pryde1) — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 20:54:29 GMT

FANG:

Crystal-Daughter (She doesn't really try to be a mothering figure)
Dan-Son
Danny-Son
Gillian-Mother
Ken-Son
Matt-Son
Michelle-Daughter
Randy-Eccentric
Susie-Mother

No father on this tribe means no leader, which is a bad thing.

KOTA:

Ace-Son (with aspirations to lead)
Bob-Father
Charlie-Son
Corinne-Daughter
Jacquie-Daughter
Jessica-Daughter
Kelly-Daughter
Marcus-Son...

Re: Family Final Four

feeds@yuku.com (Lady V) — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 20:02:23 GMT

****~~ EIGHT FF4 PREDICTIONS AND # CORRECT SO FAR: ~~****

FF4 predictions/accuracy so far are in post #869.
Here's what I have for the first episode of S17 Gabon:

FANG (love it; evokes dogs ;)
Crystal M (called self "Mama," one of "three moms" Maddie referenced "I've got three moms!")
Dan S probably
GC (Danny) S (failed leader, wants to be led)
Gillian No More Failed M (one of "three moms")
Ken...

Re: Family Final Four

feeds@yuku.com (Lady V) — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 20:00:54 GMT

Welcome (back), everyone!!!! (waving)

Here is a repost of what we are doing here at FF4!

(from 2004) I find it fascinating how, in each season, little family configurations seem to ally and hold tight, and how the members of each 'family' end up in the F4. Almost all of us grew up in families of some kind--mother (M), father (F), kids (S,D=son, daughter), maybe an eccentric uncle/grandparent type (E) in the mix. Under stressful conditions, people naturally...

Re: Family Final Four

feeds@yuku.com (fat little fingers) — Fri, 23 May 2008 21:36:58 GMT

She may have been young, but she didn't come across as a Daughter type

I thought she was definitely a Daughter or more accurately, a Sister. She had all her bonds with women her age. She was spoken of by Parvati and Alexis in a sisterly/peer way. She was shown holding hands with Alexis for comfort in the rat cave.

"Eccentric", here, doesn't necessarily mean odd or outlandish behavior, though they often include that. Eccentric means...

Re: Family Final Four

feeds@yuku.com (AllMenAreIslands) — Mon, 12 May 2008 12:12:51 GMT

Interesting that you didn't view Natalie as an Eccentric. She may have been young, but she didn't come across as a Daughter type. Even when her mom came on the Reward, she was shown helping her navigate the stairs. Not a Mom role, but not a Daughter either in my opinion. It's a minor thing, but it would meant the F4 was D, D, M, E.

Re: Family Final Four

feeds@yuku.com (fat little fingers) — Mon, 12 May 2008 10:53:19 GMT

Thanks for the great summaries, LV.

This season had all those evacuations, plus mass stupidity by the idol-holding men. It gutted the Father pool as well as the Eccentrics.

The Mother- Daughters alliance had the ring of some truth to it, though. Cirie, despite her attacks of paranoia, anchored and advised the Daughters at key moments. And the age difference came into play again, as the daughters' bonds were stronger than with...

Re: Family Final Four

feeds@yuku.com (Kitty Pryde1) — Mon, 12 May 2008 02:19:36 GMT

Lady V wrote:
~~**~ FF4 PREDICTIONS ~**~~ SEASON 16: FANS VS. FAVORITES weird season, lost 3 people unexpectedly

1) the F6 will contain an E, an F, an M, and some kids. (12 of 16 seasons)
**Nope. No F, no E.
2) F4 will not contain two people with the same role. (11 of 16)
**Nope. M and three Ds.
3) There will not be 2 Fs or 2Ms in the F6 (0/15).
**CORRECT!
4) the...

Re: Family Final Four

feeds@yuku.com (Lady V) — Mon, 12 May 2008 01:28:04 GMT

Historical FF4 finishes (1st letter winner, second comes in second, etc.):

S1: F,D,M,E
S2: M,S,F,D
S3: S,M,F,E
S4: M,D,M,F
S5: F,S,M,E
S6: D,E,S,F
S7: M,E,S,D
S8: D,S,M,F
S9: F,E,M,D
S10: F,D,S,D
S11: D,D,S,M * (F voted out F7)
S12: S,D,F,M
S13: S,E,D,M * (F voted out F7)
S14: F,M/S,E (only an F3, so hard to tell who was 2nd and who 3rd)
S15: S,D,D/E,M *(F3 season again)
S16: D, D, M, D

Re: Family Final Four

feeds@yuku.com (Lady V) — Mon, 12 May 2008 01:26:14 GMT

~~**~ FF4 PREDICTIONS ~**~~ SEASON 16: FANS VS. FAVORITES weird season, lost 3 people unexpectedly

1) the F6 will contain an E, an F, an M, and some kids. (12 of 16 seasons)
**Nope. No F, no E.
2) F4 will not contain two people with the same role. (11 of 16)
**Nope. M and three Ds.
3) There will not be 2 Fs or 2Ms in the F6 (0/15).
**CORRECT!
4) the F2 will not be two dads nor two moms. (0/15)
**CORRECT!

Now the FF4 predictions for F2 and...

Re: Family Final Four

feeds@yuku.com (Lady V) — Mon, 12 May 2008 01:19:44 GMT

Well... F4: Cerie (M) and three daughters. Quite an unusual season. S16: D,D,M,D I'm looking forward to Africa. If it's anything at all like S3, it will be brutal. Perhaps FF4 will then be able to re-emerge...

Re: Family Final Four

feeds@yuku.com (fat little fingers) — Fri, 02 May 2008 13:21:12 GMT

Miss Scamper:
Next to get the boot: Erik or Amanda.
I predict F3: Cirie, Miss PeeWater, and Natalie

It's interesting to see Mother Cirie and her two Daughters smoothing things over with each other. The Sister alliance disappeared quickly, once Eric won immunity.

Parvati spoke of having a strong bond built with Amanda. My guess is that the Mother+Sisters alliance will hold together to the f-3.

I don't see...

Re: Family Final Four

feeds@yuku.com (MissScamper) — Fri, 02 May 2008 10:23:29 GMT

I'm rather puzzled by how popular Amanda is and how unpopular Cirie is in comparison. I guess Amanda changed her game to befriend everyone in her tribe; in China she said she pretty much stuck with Todd and ignored the rest. So, good for her!

However, I don't know why Cirie isn't considered a threat as well. We haven't seen anyone saying they dislike Cirie. I don't think Cirie's been fighting with anyone. It looks to me like she has a pass to the F3 because...

Re: Family Final Four

feeds@yuku.com (fat little fingers) — Sun, 27 Apr 2008 19:55:27 GMT

Could this be the first season the women actually end up coming together and making it work?

Bingo, Lady V. It would be a record-making all-female F-3. And we should get some satisfaction out of seeing Cirie make it to at least F-3 if we have any luck at all.

All women, with a Mom included. Not really a bad outcome for FF-4, at least statistically.

Re: Family Final Four

feeds@yuku.com (MissScamper) — Sun, 27 Apr 2008 11:50:27 GMT

I'm starting to think that Erik, like Chris in Vanuatu, might be the last man standing. If he's really lucky, perhaps Amanda, Miss PeeWater, Alexis and Natalie will start fighting for the daughter position and give Erik a hall pass right to the F4. My guess for F4 right now is:

M: Cirie
D: Miss PeeWater
S: Erik
D: Alexis or Amanda

Family Final Four

feeds@yuku.com (Lady V) — Wed, 25 Feb 2004 14:30:31 GMT

I've moved this from edgic at KQ's suggestion.

find it fascinating how, in each season, little family configurations seem to ally and hold tight, and how the members of each 'family' end up in the F4. Almost all of us grew up in families of some kind--mother (M), father (F), kids (S,D=son, daughter), maybe an eccentric uncle/grandparent type (E) in the mix. Under stressful conditions, people naturally reproduce a time in their lives when they felt safest. All of us can be mothers,...